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Old Nov 30, 2005 | 07:13 PM
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Talking Knock Sensor location/replacement

I ran the KOER on my 1994 5.0l F150 and received a Code 225 "Knock Sensor Not Detected". Does that mean it may be bad, or not there all together. I had the engine rebuilt about 3 years ago maybe they did not put it back in....
Is it difficult to install/replace?

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Old Nov 30, 2005 | 11:59 PM
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Did you goose the throttle when the computer told you to during the test? It could mean a dead sensor if you did rev it, or the timing could be out of spec as well. I'd run the test again, and watch for the single blink after the engine code is output, then stomp the gas for an instant, turn the steering wheel half a turn and tap the brake pedal. Then count the blinks like normal.

If you did all that already, here is where the knock sensor is located:

This picture is looking at the back of the engine.
 
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Old Dec 1, 2005 | 01:37 AM
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what symptoms would there be if the knock sensor didnt work properly
 
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Old Dec 1, 2005 | 03:57 AM
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I am using the ACTRON CP9145. I will try it again. Thanks for the pictures on where the KS is located.
 
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Old Dec 1, 2005 | 10:15 AM
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EPNCSU2006, you did not have to pull the engine just to show where the knock sensor was.
 

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Old Dec 1, 2005 | 03:23 PM
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I pull it every time someone wants to know where the knock sensor is
 
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Old Dec 1, 2005 | 03:33 PM
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I have a related question... I'm replacing my '95 302 with a '94 351w. The '94 351w doesn't have a knock sensor. I'm using my '95 ECU and wiring to be able to use my MAS from my '95 302. Do I need to plug the knock sensor connector? Will I get a check engine light?

I'm also eliminating the air pump and tubes to the heads, there are a couple of relays w/electrical connections that run vacuum valves on the air tubes. If I plug the vacuum lines and keep the electrical connections to the relays will there be a problem?

Thanks, Brian
 
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Old Dec 1, 2005 | 05:25 PM
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Lmao Quicklook I was thinking the same thing. I was like damn he went all out to help this guy!
 
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Old Dec 1, 2005 | 05:40 PM
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lmao?

it was pretty clear after that! hahahahaha
 
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Old Dec 1, 2005 | 05:51 PM
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Old Dec 2, 2005 | 07:05 AM
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Brian:
What I would do is remove the knock sensor from the 302, and plug it into the wiring harness when you install the 351. Just tie the sensor securely out of the way. This will keep the computer from throwing codes for not seeing the knock sensor. I think that if you leave the two solenoids plugged in electrically, the computer will not turn on the check engine light.
 
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Old Dec 2, 2005 | 10:07 AM
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epncsu2006, wouldn't you need to ground it?
 
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Old Dec 2, 2005 | 12:28 PM
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epncsu2006, wouldn't you need to ground it?
Negative,
Knock sensors are voltage-generating sensors. They ground through the Powertrain Control Moduole.
 
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Old Dec 2, 2005 | 01:04 PM
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natewoz, thanks for info!
 
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Old Dec 2, 2005 | 02:02 PM
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That's correct, it's a piezo-electric device, which generates a signal when it senses a certain frequency range (i.e. knock). Generally, two wire sensors do not need a ground because they are grounded through the computer, for example, the engine temperature sensor and air temperature sensor.
 
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