4 cyl aero...
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4 cyl aero...
My friends uncle drives blue Aero '86... I concidered his van 6-cyl, but when I visited him I found 4-cyl 2.3 l engine inside.
Yesterday I've made snapshots...
4-cyl engine (carburator!!!! and electronic ignition...!)
The owner of this Aero told me, that carburator, air filter and tranny are not original. A tranny of mazda was before, now a tranny of ford scorpio is installed, but Scorpio clutch is cabel controlled and he had to modify it...
I've seen 2.9l (like in Bronco) and 4l engines inside aeros.
I had never seen 4-cyl aero before. Is it populal version?
Yesterday I've made snapshots...
4-cyl engine (carburator!!!! and electronic ignition...!)
The owner of this Aero told me, that carburator, air filter and tranny are not original. A tranny of mazda was before, now a tranny of ford scorpio is installed, but Scorpio clutch is cabel controlled and he had to modify it...
I've seen 2.9l (like in Bronco) and 4l engines inside aeros.
I had never seen 4-cyl aero before. Is it populal version?
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your friend's uncle has a rare 4 cyl Aero, only made for the first few years of van production. no much horsepower, about 88 on a good day with a strong tail wind and good fuel
When it was introduced in mid-1985 as a 1986 model, the Ford Aerostar came equipped with a 2.3 liter 4-cylinder engine that produced 88 hp of power. This, however, improved in the succeeding years and by 1990, a 4.0 liter V6 became available coupled with a heavy duty 4-speed automatic transmission
nice pretty blue color paint job, matches the Big Blue grill oval and the spark plug wires.
your friend's uncle's Blue Beauty and your racing Aero must be the only two in the Ukraine?
When it was introduced in mid-1985 as a 1986 model, the Ford Aerostar came equipped with a 2.3 liter 4-cylinder engine that produced 88 hp of power. This, however, improved in the succeeding years and by 1990, a 4.0 liter V6 became available coupled with a heavy duty 4-speed automatic transmission
nice pretty blue color paint job, matches the Big Blue grill oval and the spark plug wires.
your friend's uncle's Blue Beauty and your racing Aero must be the only two in the Ukraine?
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i love 4 cyl engines, as close to perfectly balanced reciprocating engine design that man has designed....anyone remember Offenhauser Indy engine...what a screamer...dual cam, 4 valve, 251 ci 4.1 L I, 16:1 compression...up to 3 hp per ci w super charger or turbo'd at over 6k rpm all day long..some put out over 1000 hp on methanol...won more times at Indy than any other engine ever produced....pretty good for 1950's 60's technology....
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Not at all. The Tempo engine was fundamentally a shortened version of the old Falcon pushrod I-6. The Lima 2.3L is not at all related and is a SOHC design. IIRC, the Lima engine is longer with longer bore spacing then the Tempo engine.
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turbo gas 4 cyl I FI engines tend to be high rpm narrow power band beasts so would need a 5 or 6 speed auto w high stall speed torque converter and 4.33 or 5.12 rear end in shorty confirguration, no extra seats and weight held to a minimum for good launch.
emissions laws and regulations are killing off the really great 4 cyl large bore engines, too large a quench combustion area in a 4"+ bore short stroke designs of over 2.5L, 3.5 or 4L 4I w variable timing DOHC's would be a killer torque engine....and easy to work on transverse or longitud....cruise at 1500 rpm at 75 mph...
emissions laws and regulations are killing off the really great 4 cyl large bore engines, too large a quench combustion area in a 4"+ bore short stroke designs of over 2.5L, 3.5 or 4L 4I w variable timing DOHC's would be a killer torque engine....and easy to work on transverse or longitud....cruise at 1500 rpm at 75 mph...
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Dear 96,
I share your appreciation for four modern four cyl engines. While they are intuitively balanced, I am positive there is some obscure phenomena that renders them unbalanced. I wish I understood this but I am quite sure. I know many fours have balance shafts to make them smoother. GM had terrible shaking problems with their "quad four" a few years ago and later put balance shafts into them to make them usable.
This is a very interesting question for me, it seems that the pistons should be balanced but again I am sure they are not. I also know that the flathead ford v8 with the 180 degree "flat crank" (two fours on a common crank) was a shakey mess.
If anyone can shed more light on this, it would be very interesting.
Ken
I share your appreciation for four modern four cyl engines. While they are intuitively balanced, I am positive there is some obscure phenomena that renders them unbalanced. I wish I understood this but I am quite sure. I know many fours have balance shafts to make them smoother. GM had terrible shaking problems with their "quad four" a few years ago and later put balance shafts into them to make them usable.
This is a very interesting question for me, it seems that the pistons should be balanced but again I am sure they are not. I also know that the flathead ford v8 with the 180 degree "flat crank" (two fours on a common crank) was a shakey mess.
If anyone can shed more light on this, it would be very interesting.
Ken
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Originally Posted by ken1mod
GM had terrible shaking problems with their "quad four" a few years ago and later put balance shafts into them to make them usable.
This is a very interesting question for me, it seems that the pistons should be balanced but again I am sure they are not. I also know that the flathead ford v8 with the 180 degree "flat crank" (two fours on a common crank) was a shakey mess.
If anyone can shed more light on this, it would be very interesting.
Ken
If anyone can shed more light on this, it would be very interesting.
Ken
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of tThe engine of his aero is 2.3 like an engine of topaz...
Aerostar is desighned such, that it is not a big problem to install there different engines. 3.8L V6 of Thunderbird with AOD was installed there by one gue in Moscow. The maximal engine, I've ever seen in Aero was 4.3 R6 turbo diesel of Mercedes truck (unfortunatly a man, who installed this monster inside aero had to move radiator ahead, use dual electric fan and his van is without AC). The smallest engine I've ever seen is 1.6 of Capri. But it used with 4.3 rear ax.ratio. It's really slow...
Now we have a real fuel crisis, so it is popular here to replace original engines by diesel (Ford EU, or Mercedes), or to install natural gas fuel systems (for propane/butane, LPG or compressed methan). But often instead of rebuilding original 3.0 or 4.0 engines of aeros people preferes to bue diesel or smaller engines from end of life trucks and to rebuild and to install them. And for MPG imroving manual trannys are popular too.
Aerostar is desighned such, that it is not a big problem to install there different engines. 3.8L V6 of Thunderbird with AOD was installed there by one gue in Moscow. The maximal engine, I've ever seen in Aero was 4.3 R6 turbo diesel of Mercedes truck (unfortunatly a man, who installed this monster inside aero had to move radiator ahead, use dual electric fan and his van is without AC). The smallest engine I've ever seen is 1.6 of Capri. But it used with 4.3 rear ax.ratio. It's really slow...
Now we have a real fuel crisis, so it is popular here to replace original engines by diesel (Ford EU, or Mercedes), or to install natural gas fuel systems (for propane/butane, LPG or compressed methan). But often instead of rebuilding original 3.0 or 4.0 engines of aeros people preferes to bue diesel or smaller engines from end of life trucks and to rebuild and to install them. And for MPG imroving manual trannys are popular too.
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Torsen, after reading your post I did some more research on the net and the information I got was that the 2.3 Lima engine is the Pinto engine (!).
Apparently this engine was extensively used in the UK in vans and there also was a DOHC version.
Pablo, I can see how people can put other engines in an Aerostar where roads are poor and speeds have to be slow, but in the US these modifications would not be allowed because of emissions laws, and performance would be too poor for our speeds.
I sure can't imagine getting around in my Aero if it had a Pinto engine!
Ray Mac
Apparently this engine was extensively used in the UK in vans and there also was a DOHC version.
Pablo, I can see how people can put other engines in an Aerostar where roads are poor and speeds have to be slow, but in the US these modifications would not be allowed because of emissions laws, and performance would be too poor for our speeds.
I sure can't imagine getting around in my Aero if it had a Pinto engine!
Ray Mac