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Old Nov 18, 2005 | 10:12 AM
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valve question

are thry good valves and are they pretty much like stock just stainless

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Ford-...QQcmdZViewItem


item number if link dont work 8013768214
 
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Old Nov 18, 2005 | 05:59 PM
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I bought these exact same valves from mad dog via ebay. I'm fairly sure they work (they're at the machinist right now getting a 3 angle valve job). The one thing that surprised me is that the ones I got are multi-groove (as opposed to what the picture shows, which are single groove). My old valves were single groove (79 351m), but the machinist said that he has multi groove keepers that will work, and that multi groove are just as good. Elsewhere, I've heard the opposite. So I don't know what to believe.

Hmm, helpful post huh?
 
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Old Nov 18, 2005 | 07:03 PM
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actualy the post was helpful. and at least i know at least iknow one person has them
 
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Old Nov 18, 2005 | 07:34 PM
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Multi groove valves are designed to rotate to distribute the heat and IIRC to make up for the lack of lead in gasoline. They are definitely not performance pieces because in order to allow the valves to rotate the keepers have to remain a little loose. At higher RPMs the keepers tend to be too loose and let go of the valve stem entirely. That's known as a V.B.T. (Very Bad Thing) and results in ex$pen$ive noi$e$ before the engine stops running.
 

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Old Nov 18, 2005 | 09:20 PM
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I hadn't heard of that before...at what RPM are we talking about here? My rebuild isn't designed to go above 4500k. Should I be worried?
 
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Old Nov 19, 2005 | 12:09 AM
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I've never seen a specific RPM limit written anywhere. I know that Ford Motorsports says that for any engine built for "extended high RPM usage" multi keeper valves should be replaced with single keeper style valves.
 
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Old Nov 19, 2005 | 08:25 AM
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Cool...for what its worth, the 03/04 SVT Cobra has multi groove keepers. That's about the only vehicle I could find that specifically mentions it.
 
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Old Nov 19, 2005 | 05:22 PM
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I'm not familiar with the newer motors. I know that the 351M/400 and most Cleveland 2V motors utilized multi groove valves.
 
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