Dont forget Amway!

 

Scott,
Your post OWNS ME!!
I needed a good laugh and you provided it.

Thanks!

 

To answer you question, no, I am certainly not associated with Amsoil in any way shape or form. I have never purchased one Amsoil product, I simply wondered if anyone here had used their oil. It appears one person has at least and had no issues. Currently I use Mobil 1 in my motorcycle, and it has made shifting smoother and start up easier. So I just wondered, sorry if I caused any sense of multi-level marketing phobia or panic attacks.

 

I am not a dealer, or user!

I looked into it a couple of years ago, but when I ran into a local dealer, it was a lot different then what they advertised! All the literature I had seen talked about things like 10,000 miles between oil changes (supposably due to using a 3 filter system). Yet when I talked to the dealer, he was saying you still had to change the oil at every 3,000 miles (at a much higher cost then dino juice). Now with newer vehicles like my bosses company truck (GMC, the dealer and owners are friends) it has sensors to tell you what the percentage is on your oil to when it needs to be changed. As we see this type of technology occuring, there will be more people changing their oil at other increments (depending on driving habits). I believe that Fords 5w20 is already part synthetic, and the recommended oil.

 

Of course, you need to follow the recommended interval only while under warranty -- afterwards, it's up to you. 3000 miles, unless they're al short trips, is usually way too short.

As for Amsoil, when I replaced my rear end, I wanted to put in a synthetic oil, and Amsoil happened to be the cheapest (no kidding!!) in the nearby GI Joe's. I believe the other one was Redline or Royal Purple, and that probably explains how could that happen. With a 100k or longer interval on gear oil, it the cost of the oil is insignificant.

 

I have used amsoil in the past and to be honest with you, I thought it gave me no difference than Castrol Synthetic oil. It is more expensive and if it was so good why don't most auto parts stores carry it? I have been using Castrol Syntec and Castrol Syntec Blend in my vehicles and they preform flawlessly. Amsoil is nothing but a scam and would not recommend it!

 

Sorry, GWFORD but the Amsoil dealers can't read that they are not allowed in this forum peddling their goods. The low amount of your posts are consistant with the usual Amsoil dealer before the moderator cuts them off and the verbage sounds like spam. So, accept our apologies and welcome to this forum. We all agree here that it is okay to disagree and nothing personal is intended or accepted, unless you are an Amsoil dealer.

In regards to your motorcycle. If your engine shares the same oil as the transmission, which is the usual on most bikes, the Mobil One is a weak oil for that useage. Shearing forces in the transmission will tear M1 apart and wear will be acelerated. In this case, I would suggest an oil with a high additive package like Harley oil or if you don't mind going outside the box, try Amsoils HDD oil. They will have the add package to handle the shearing. If those are not an option, try any of the diesel rated oils like Rotella, Mystic, Delvac, etc. They are a more robust oil with more additives than the usual SM rated oils. You can also use Valvolines Synpower as an additive as it is rich in ZDDP which you bike will need. A half bottle per oil change should be enough if you want to stay with your M1.

 

Ah heck, now we have to wait until next duck hunting season.

Anyways, what Flash said - low post count and an "innocent" question about Amsoil has proven time and time again to be a dealer, or someone who is somehow "involved" with Amsoil MLM stuff. Sorry we missed it on you.
By the way, that's where the duck thing comes from.
If it walks like a duck, talks like a duck, etc. it must be a duck (insert "Amsoil dealer" for duck)

Regarding the motorcycle oils: I do use Rotella 15W40 in all my motorcycles.
I ride them hard - not abusive - but I guess you could say I get my money's worth out of each cc.
They diesel oil seems to be doing a good job. It is cost efficient, easily obtained and wet clutch friendly.

Thanks for not running for cover!
Glad to have you round.

 

I still say Quickie Stop Mart's CHALET Non-Detergent 40WT "SA" rated oil is the best oil on the market. Doubles as an emergency salad dressing, when times are tough. Goodnight now.... Ed :>) ....

 

I understand your thinking about the Amsoil dealer thing, not a problem. Regarding Mobil 1 in my motorcycle, however, I have done quite a bit of research on using in in my bike, and yes I have the "wet clutch" set up, like most bikes. I use Mobil 1 MX4T.

Quoting Mobil 1's website, I copied and pasted the following:


"Mobil 1 MX4T is designed for sport bikes. Most of these bikes have multi-cylinder/multi-valve engines and use a common sump, which means the engine oil lubricates the engine, transmission and wet clutch. So unlike Mobil 1 for cars, Mobil 1 MX4T has no friction modifiers, which could lead to clutch slippage.

The motorcycle oil also has more phosphorus/zinc for enhanced wear protection at high engine speeds and high loads.

In addition, Mobil 1 MX4T uses different dispersant/detergent technology for better high-temperature performance and engine cleanliness. Mobil 1 MX4T is also offered in a different viscosity grade than Mobil 1 for passenger cars."

Personally I definitely feel the bike shifts so much smoother with Mobil 1 than dino oil. And inspecting it visually, it looks just as clean as the day I put it in. I am impressed with it.

So I think next oil change, I will go with Mobil 1 in the F-150. Maybe do an before and after MPG test and let everyone know if it makes a difference in that aspect or not. I am also considering changing to a synthetic automatic transmission fluid in the future.

But anywayyyyyyyyy, thanks for the welcome people...and I promise *hand over heart*, no selling! :>)

 

Hey, thanks for the info on the Mobil motorcycle oil.
I might just have to give it a try.

 

A caution about newer oil formulations and wet clutches. CH4+ Delo and I believe, Pennzoil Longlife, have a lot of moly. At least in hard use, moly seems to cause clutch slippage. Too bad, because these oils otherwise protect the gears very well.

Jim

 

I know some Mobil 1 has moly, the red cap doesnt.

 

the moly used is not to be confused with the other moly. the molys used in oils today will not cause slippage. but the solid moly will. so it is not a big deal anymore. solid moly is not used.

 

I really hesitate to say anything here, but I think this sort of flaming is outrageous considering Amsoil dealers aren't allowed to say much at all around here. Yes, I am a dealer but I will tell you that your statements are pure rhetoric and baseless. Please don't make these kinds of statements without showing proof. Have you run independent tests to verify oil performance to see who is a scammer? I doubt it. What do you mean by what it gives you? Did you think you would pour Amsoil in your engine and get an extra 30 HP or something? Come on let's not get silly. That's not even what oil is for.

It's apparent that some Amsoil dealers have been shooting themselves in the foot around here because they can't even quote Amsoil official information properly. I will not go further in that regard out of respect for the rules, but I want you to know that some of the other posts here where someone paraphases what a dealer told them is wrong (e.g., filters and oil change intervals). I'm actually upset by what some other dealers are doing here by misquoting information. Whoever tells you something, please go check it out they could be wrong.