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Old Nov 18, 2005 | 12:02 AM
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What Ford needs to do with the F150 line;

1.) Add a new 6speed manual - something heavy duty but smaller than the ZF-6.
2.) Add a 5 speed auto
3.) Drop the 4.2L V6 and make the 4.6L V8 the base engine again - save cost.
4.) Drop the M5OD, 4R70, and 4R100.

The the manual /4.6L V8 combo you still have an econo rig. You can buy an auto if so desired, up it to 5.4L with auto or manual as well.

Auto gear ratios; Low 3.30:1..1st 2.10:1..2nd.. 1.60:1..3rd..1:1 ..OD .69:1 R..3.30:1
Manual ratios Low 5.79:1.. 1st 3.31:1.. 2nd 2.10:1.. 3rd 1.31:1.. 4th 1:1.. R 5.23:1
(Same as the ZF 6 - same pattern and all, only a smaller sized box.)

Both trans should have a 450lb input rating incase Ford ever decides to put a diesel in the F150. This would solve everything IMO.
 
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Old Nov 18, 2005 | 12:22 AM
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Those are great ideas...bit if it had a 5 speed auto, wouldn't 4th be 1:1 then?
I think we need to scrap that useless V6, and get back with the staright 6. I know it will never happen, but that 4.2L I6 they have over in Ausie land would fit nicely, I mean, it's in a Falcon. A six speed manual would work so well.
 
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Old Nov 18, 2005 | 12:32 AM
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well the v-6 is a very popular setup , many work trucks are sold with it. it also raises fords cafe numbers so it is staying right where it is.
 
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Old Nov 18, 2005 | 02:08 AM
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Originally Posted by ford390gashog
nick the 4v heads would be a no go. the navigator requires premium 91 octane with those heads. for ford to appeal to the normal buyer regular 87 octane was needed to do the job.
The 4V heads only required 91 because they were calibrated for 91.
Just through in a knock sensor or 2 to retard the spark advance when required.

My 4V engine (with much higher comp ratio than the Nav.) runs on 91RON fine (close to your 87)
 
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