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Old Nov 15, 2005 | 08:25 PM
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Trans not shifting and codes

2001 F250 4X4 Auto, everything stock with 105,000 miles. Pulling away from a stoplight, transmission shifted into 2nd hard then 3rd hard then...nothing. This happened with overdrive off pulling a 16 foot open trailer and race car, no way the combo is over 5500# total. Limped the truck home in first, hooked up a scanner and retrieved these codes. PO732 and PO733 The transmission will not engage reverse now either. Anyone tell me what the codes tell and what is suspected with the symptomes described? Thanks for any help. Jon
 
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Old Nov 15, 2005 | 08:38 PM
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P0732 Gear 2 Incorrect ratio
P0733 Gear 3 Incorrect ratio

I am going through tranny problems myself right now...
 
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Old Nov 15, 2005 | 09:24 PM
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yes......

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P0732 Gear 2 Incorrect ratio
P0733 Gear 3 Incorrect ratio...
Thats what its saying.
 
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Old Nov 15, 2005 | 10:14 PM
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Hmmmm, maybe a failing VSS sending a bad speed signal. There's no way for the gears to suddenly change ratios.
 
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Old Nov 16, 2005 | 07:24 AM
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A bad VSS can't cause these codes. These codes set because the gear ratios are wrong.
The trans is commanded to be in 2nd gear, but the ratio between the turbine speed sensor and output speed sensor (not the VSS) is not the correct ratio. Smae for the 3rd gear code.
Unfortunately these codes usually mean something mechanical has broke. It needs to come out and get torn down.
 
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Old Nov 16, 2005 | 08:04 AM
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So it's commanded to shift to second, but stays in first too long and then suddenly shifts? Or something like that?
Not to be argumentative here, just trying to learn.
Have you dealt with this, tried a VSS, and ended up pulling the trans and rebuilding?
You sound positive of your answer, and again, not trying to be argumentative, I am trying to learn how you know this with certainty.
 
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Old Nov 16, 2005 | 01:50 PM
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It's because I know how the test works that sets those codes. It does not look at the VSS for that test, it looks at TSS and OSS. The ratio between those two is the gear ratio of the transmission.

If the code is set for 2nd gear it means that when second gear is commanded the ratio that is calculated from the TSS and OSS is not 1.53:1. It could be anything else. It could be in first, it could be in third, or it could just be slipping and not be in any recognized ratio. As long as it isn't 1.53:1 when it should be in second it will set the wrong second gear ratio.

I wouldn't replace the VSS because of these codes. I'd need to see a P0500, or see some problem with the speedo.
 
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Old Nov 16, 2005 | 01:58 PM
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Thank you Casey. I understand.
 
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Pulled the pan off today, smelled like the fluid was burnt and had shavings on the drain magnet. But thats normal right?
 
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Ussually when it has those codes it means the clutchs are slipping or it may have rolled a sprag.

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