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Turn signals out
I started fooling with the turn signals yesterday.
But I didn't start at the bottom end like I probably should have. I pulled the steering wheel, and started looking at the big switch unit on the column. Following the shaky Chilton directions, my goal was to separate the hazard portion from the turn signal portion and inspect them both. But unlike the directions said, I don't see any quick release tabs, and have slightly buggered the thing now. I thought they would pop apart with some light elbow grease.
I figure, if I can get it apart, I should replace it now wether it needs it or not since I started prying at it. BUt I can't seem to get it apart so I can disengage the wires to replace the unit.
Anybody got any input?
I'd like to get her fixed up for some serious dump runs this weekend.
Thanks,
Blair
But I didn't start at the bottom end like I probably should have. I pulled the steering wheel, and started looking at the big switch unit on the column. Following the shaky Chilton directions, my goal was to separate the hazard portion from the turn signal portion and inspect them both. But unlike the directions said, I don't see any quick release tabs, and have slightly buggered the thing now. I thought they would pop apart with some light elbow grease.
I figure, if I can get it apart, I should replace it now wether it needs it or not since I started prying at it. BUt I can't seem to get it apart so I can disengage the wires to replace the unit.
Anybody got any input?
I'd like to get her fixed up for some serious dump runs this weekend.
Thanks,
Blair
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79' F150 4x4. No tilt or cruise or anything like that.
thanks,
Blair
Didn't realize you were in Staunton. Practically neighbors.
thanks,
Blair
Didn't realize you were in Staunton. Practically neighbors.
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The turn signal switch is part of the hazard switch.
Go to blueovaltruckparts.com and search for Part # SW-0093.
Remove the three screws from the turn signal switch. Signal the switch the left and then right to expose the screws to be removed. Unscrew turn signal handle (counter clock wise to unscrew)
One must remove the wires from plastic harness on the lower portion of column. (turn signal switch). Mark wire layout to plastic harness on paper to avoid in confusion on installation.
Tie a wire on old wiring harness before pulling out turn signal wires. The wire will travel up the column when you pull up on the wires. Then tie new wires to pull down new wires down the steering column shaft. Use your wire layout to place the new wires in the plastic harness.
Go to blueovaltruckparts.com and search for Part # SW-0093.
Remove the three screws from the turn signal switch. Signal the switch the left and then right to expose the screws to be removed. Unscrew turn signal handle (counter clock wise to unscrew)
One must remove the wires from plastic harness on the lower portion of column. (turn signal switch). Mark wire layout to plastic harness on paper to avoid in confusion on installation.
Tie a wire on old wiring harness before pulling out turn signal wires. The wire will travel up the column when you pull up on the wires. Then tie new wires to pull down new wires down the steering column shaft. Use your wire layout to place the new wires in the plastic harness.
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Big thanks for that link on the part.
Hope to be on the road to good signals here soon.
Thanks,
Edit: And thanks on the idea of the wire, makes sense after you explained it.
Hope to be on the road to good signals here soon.
Thanks,
Edit: And thanks on the idea of the wire, makes sense after you explained it.
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Well,
did as told, pulled the wires, marked everything down, then pulled the new wires thru, then reconnected them, into the connector. Plugged them in and still no signals or hazards.
At least I have a new switch in the column and know that it isn't buggered up like the old one was from me looking-poking at it. THe big flasher fuses are new, and the small fuses in the fuse block are good too.
What is the next step now? Pull the harness at start probing with a meter?
Is there another fuse somewhere that could be blown?
Never had a problem with signals and all of a sudden nothing.
Thanks for any advise,
Blair
did as told, pulled the wires, marked everything down, then pulled the new wires thru, then reconnected them, into the connector. Plugged them in and still no signals or hazards.
At least I have a new switch in the column and know that it isn't buggered up like the old one was from me looking-poking at it. THe big flasher fuses are new, and the small fuses in the fuse block are good too.
What is the next step now? Pull the harness at start probing with a meter?
Is there another fuse somewhere that could be blown?
Never had a problem with signals and all of a sudden nothing.
Thanks for any advise,
Blair
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What is the next step now? Pull the harness at start probing with a meter?
Once you find the flashers, unplug them and take a testlight or voltmeter and probe each terminal. If you hook the other side of the meter or testlight to ground, and probe the plug for the flashers, one terminal should be hot on each flasher plug. I believe you have to have the key in run for the turnsignal flasher to be hot, but the hazard flasher should have one terminal hot all the time.
Also give us a quick reminder again on what is and is not working. The signals and hazards are not working. Both rear brake lights do work? Do any of the turnsignal bulbs outside the truck or dash indicators stay on solid when you activate the turnsignals or hazards?
Also, is this a project truck that you bought that hasn't been on the road in awhile? Or was this a driver and suddenly the lights quit working? What I am trying to determine from this question is if the wiring could have possibly been monkeyed with, or is this a normal failure.
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I sure would like to know what happens on this one- I have a 77 xlt supercab and can't get the turn signals to work. I do have hazards and I do have power at the Flasher. I also took off the wheel and only have power at the switch when the hazards are on. Any help would be appreciated. jweber@viclink.com Also if I come up with something to help you I will let you know
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Hey guys,
I didn't get into her much more yesterday. The truck is a driver/worker. I don't use every day, but the wiring to the lights has never given me much trouble. She has been sitting alot, but were working fine towards the middle\end of summer.
The first time I started having trouble, September, I had hazards but the flashers had quit. Now, I have nothing, no hazards or turn signals. When I cut the lights on, all the markers and taillights are working good. Headlights work well too if it matters. I had replaced the big signal/hazard round fuses under the dash, but that didn't fix me.
I'll get the meter out tonight and play with it a little.
Thanks for your help,
Blair
I didn't get into her much more yesterday. The truck is a driver/worker. I don't use every day, but the wiring to the lights has never given me much trouble. She has been sitting alot, but were working fine towards the middle\end of summer.
The first time I started having trouble, September, I had hazards but the flashers had quit. Now, I have nothing, no hazards or turn signals. When I cut the lights on, all the markers and taillights are working good. Headlights work well too if it matters. I had replaced the big signal/hazard round fuses under the dash, but that didn't fix me.
I'll get the meter out tonight and play with it a little.
Thanks for your help,
Blair
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I have gone a little further on my problem- Flashers are only working in the front. No brake lights. Tail lights, headlights and Marker lights are working. Brake switch is working as the flashers stop flashing when I hit the brake. I checked the power coming out of switch and compaired to wiring schematic. I do not have any power to left or right rear turn and brake lights. I figuring a bad turn signal. Does that sound right to you guys?
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I still didn't touch mine. It rained here a good bit, then thanksgiving got in the way. Wanted to fool with it this weekend, but it looks like my Windstar threw a rod, spent a whole day just trying to get back home and have the van towed. If it quits raining tonight, I'll do some checking.
Thanks,
Blair
Thanks,
Blair