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Old Jan 15, 2002 | 08:16 PM
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This guy is trying to get the value of a "1977 f-250 crew cab PSD"

I thought it may have been a misprint but his last post claims they made a PSD in '77.

The timeline I remember(all from memory) is mid 80's for a diesel(non-turbo) and mid to late 90's for the PSD.

Of course there were a few members who were sooooo worried about the message being in the wrong topic, I couldn't get an answer there.

Any facts will be appreciated.
 
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Old Jan 15, 2002 | 08:33 PM
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Nope, no Powerstroke then. Ford had diesel trucks, but not Powerstrokes.
 
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Old Jan 15, 2002 | 08:50 PM
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O.K.---I'm going to try to quote from memory---the non turbo 6.9 diesel came out around 83 or so-----and from 83 to 93 ford increased the displacement to 7.3 ------Ford started selling a turbo diesel that had an after market turbo during the 94 model year---this was NOT the Powerstroke Diesel-----The Powerstroke diesel appeared at the END of the 94 model year---The BIG difference between the pre-powerstroke and the Powerstroke diesel was that the Powerstroke diesel had NO Injector pump with the 8 individual fuel tubes running to each combustion chamber---Instead the pathways for fuel delivery were cast into the Heads and controlled by a computer----the hydraulic force necessary to supply fuel for the engine was supplied by a mechanically driven pump that utilized the engine oil for that purpose----that is why it was So important to change your oil every 3,000 miles or so or you would notice a discernable degredation of engine performance----and that is why Currently it is still important to keep the oil changed on a regular interval for the diesel engine in the Superduty's that came out in 1999---All historical corrections to the above will be appreciated--this is a subjective recollection at best and as such may contain errors--although not intentional , Just alittle alzheimers , maybe , fd :-X11
 
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Old Jan 15, 2002 | 09:14 PM
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[updated:LAST EDITED ON 15-Jan-02 AT 10:18 PM (EST)]the old smokers were built buy International, who now makes Power Strokes, so that could be the cause for the confusion.
 
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Old Jan 15, 2002 | 10:59 PM
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Fatdaddy, your recollection is very close to mine. I don't believe there were ANY F series light duty(250-350) trucks in the 70's with diesels, much less a PSD.

Thanx.
 
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Old Jan 15, 2002 | 11:00 PM
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>Nope, no Powerstroke then. Ford had diesel trucks, but not
>Powerstrokes.

Ken, I don't think there were 250-350 diesels then.

 
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Old Jan 15, 2002 | 11:02 PM
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6.9 came out in 83-87
89 brought 7.3
95 brought Powerstroke..they are electronic motors..thats the difference
and Navistar builts the diesels by the way.
 
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Old Jan 15, 2002 | 11:05 PM
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>Ken, I don't think there were 250-350 diesels then.

Ford has offered their own (330 cid) and other engine maker's (International, Cummins) diesels in the F-series since the 60s, possibly further back....

Want a scan of the engine table of contents from a Ford shop manual or will my word suffice? :-)
 
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sorry typo....88 brought 7.3
 
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Old Jan 15, 2002 | 11:55 PM
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>>Ken, I don't think there were 250-350 diesels then.
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>Ford has offered their own (330 cid) and other engine
>maker's (International, Cummins) diesels in the F-series
>since the 60s, possibly further back....
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>Want a scan of the engine table of contents from a Ford shop
>manual or will my word suffice? :-)


I absolutely agree on F series. Just not F250-350.(light duty)

If you have something showing a diesel in a 250 prior to '83, I'd be interested.

 
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Old Jan 15, 2002 | 11:57 PM
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The bottom line is this guy claims to have a 1977 PSD. I really didn't think so!!!
 
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Old Jan 16, 2002 | 05:04 PM
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international owns navistar
 
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Old Jan 16, 2002 | 05:19 PM
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So lets get this straight, Ken, can you give what all engines you could get in a 77'?
 
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Old Jan 16, 2002 | 05:33 PM
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F-series engine options:

300 6-CYLINDER
302 V-8
351W V-8
351-M V-8
400 V-8
330 FT V-8
359 FT V-8
361 FT V-8
389 FT V-8
391 FT V-8
460 V-8
475 477 V-8
534 V-8
Cummins V-555
Cummins V-903
Detroit 8V-71N
Detroit 8V-71T
Detroit 8V-71TT
Detroit 6-71N
Ford V-636
Caterpiller 3406

 
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Old Jan 16, 2002 | 08:32 PM
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>F-series engine options:
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>300 6-CYLINDER
>302 V-8
>351W V-8
>351-M V-8
>400 V-8
>330 FT V-8
>359 FT V-8
>361 FT V-8
>389 FT V-8
>391 FT V-8
>460 V-8
>475 477 V-8
>534 V-8
>Cummins V-555
>Cummins V-903
>Detroit 8V-71N
>Detroit 8V-71T
>Detroit 8V-71TT
>Detroit 6-71N
>Ford V-636
>Caterpiller 3406


Ken, YOU'RE KILLING ME!!! LOL!!!


More specifically, what were the available motors in '77 for an F250.

You're doing a great dis-service here. There's going to be Ford guys claiming that there were CAT 3406's available in F250's!!! LOL, again!!!

 
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