http://www.bridger.us/2002/12/16/Cra...operVsFordF150

Not what you'd expect.

 

I remember I ever saw on MSN a crash test of 2005 F-150, at 55mph, onto a wall. It was far less damaged than this one shown in the page.

Is it because 2005 improved a lot? Anyone has any other information? This surely concerns me.

 

It's my humble opinion that the F150 would win that tug-of war with the mini.


As for crash test results, the article is correct, it's very important to consider the safety engineering, and not the wieght. Back in the days of full frame cars where everything was built the same way, larger cars were safer. Today, that is certainly not the case. For instance, the Smart FourTwo has a curb wieght of 730 kg, but gets very good crash test results.

 

I didn't look real hard, but does it show what forces that were excerted on the occupants? I would bet, looking at both, that the mini cooper is more ridgid, which in turn is what was so dangerous about the cars of yesteryear. When the car is rigid the forces are absorbed by the occupants. I also have to disagree with the writer about which would do better in a head on collsion with another vehicle, shear weight and hieght alone will let the F150 perform better in a head on with a smaller auto. Also nobody seemd to remember that the mini weighs in around 2k were the F150 is around 5500lbs. Now take both run them into a solid object and tell me which performs better, Seems to be a bit skewed since the F150s impact will result in lot more force since the vehicel is over twice the weight. Take that mini,put 3k in the back (yeh right), and do the same test, I'll put money on the F150 if anyone would like to take up that bet! Lastly is the amount of deaths per vehicle. Of course the best seling vehicle will have the most deaths, they'll be in the most accidents just because there are more of them to be in accedents. The F Series pickup sold nealy a million units last year, ther were 238 deaths, thats a 0.024%. The cammery sold what, maybe 100k units, we'll just say 200k for the heck of it because I'm to lazy to look it up; there were 60 deaths in cameries yet that yeilds a .03%. Also it doesn't cover what model years, is this the for every F series vehicle since the ol F100s of the 70s or is this just the 04+ F Series. Also when stating Fseries onee has to realize that there is the F250 -F650, are tehy include all or just the F150? There is so much stuff not included in the article how can anybody draw any conclusion worth while for the garbage that was written! You guy go ahead and buy that mini, well see who survives when you run headon with my SuperDuty!! JFYI, my bumper should be about window height for a mini and mine is bone stock!

 

I believe the F-150 in the picture is pre-2004.

 

Those fatality stats were divided by the number of units sold, so having the best selling vehicle doens't matter. I think if you read that article carefully, you'll find that it's pretty reasonable. Calling it garbage just because it's not pro-ford isn't really helping the debate.

Although, I will agree with you that it's easier to get impressive results from a smaller vehicle simply because there is less energy to dissapate.

 

Here's the results for the newer 04-06 F-150 trucks. It passed with flying colors and had a best pick for frontal crash results.

http://www.iihs.org/ratings/rating.aspx?id=192

 

That was an '02. I've seen the commercial, two bulldozers barely hurt the truck!!!

 

Yup----look at the back Window on the suicide door...not the same shape as the 2004. I saw the Lincoln Pickup crash test on American Chopper on TV.....The new body style survives as well as that Mini hitting a stationary object like a crash test barrier , but inflicts a hell of a lot more damage and comes out a lot better than anything else it hits.

 

Yeah, the previous generation tests were horrible in the offset crashes. But for some reason, not too bad in a head on. The 2004+ is vastly improved

 

Here's the real question if the two were to hit head on what would happen? My truck would crush it like a toy!

 

Here is the 04+ crash test rating.

Look at the pics, it looks great after the crash test.

I have plenty of compaints with my truck lol, but atleast I know that its safe.

 

the new F150 has 5 star rating. it mught be far less painful than it looks. also remember that the news and other sources only want you to see bad things. stuff like that is filled with propaganda.

 

This hippy libby article is not correct. The F150 is safer to drive than a Mini, even the older ones. The Mini does not get an acceptable rating for rear crash protection. Overall rating is marginal. This is one step away from poor. Dynamic rating is marginal. Seat design paramters fail. No side impact tests have been conducted for this vehicle. Not good.

Also this just in......

"Herbert / August 17, 2003 1:19 PM / Permalink
i think this is bs because i found the following info on Ford: The National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA) awarded its top rating – a five-star rating – for driver and passenger frontal crash to the following 2003 Ford Division vehicle models: the Ford Expedition 4x4, Ford Crown Victoria, Ford Windstar, Ford Taurus, Ford Mustang 2-door, Ford F-150 Supercrew 4-door 4x2. The Ford Expedition is the first full-size SUV to win a five-star driver and passenger rating three years in a row.So just because u love the mini plz don't put up lies."

 

dave / October 22, 2003 3:00 AM / Permalink
"I would like to see some proof, that single car crashes are more common than a 2 vehicle crash. Our roads are so crowded with vehicles, that it dosen't sound right. Personally i would like to be the guy driving in the f150. There is a lot of talk about accident avoidance being important part of the vehicle design(better brakes, suspention etc.), but here's how i see it: Most time i can control my own driving by not driving like an idiot, thus decreasing a chance of hitting as stationary object like bridge pillar or a tree. Therefore the most likely accident scenario for me would be getting hit by someone else, which is very hard to control and avoid even if i have a good handling vehicle. I'm going to exagerate to make my point: A semi truck is probably the poorest handling vehicle on the road and if it hits a non-deformable object like a bridge pillar, it will literally crush itself under it's own weight. Having said that if the big truck hits any passenger-type vehicle on the road, it won't suffer much damage at all and the worst thing that can happen top the trucker is that he will spill his coffe. The same cannot be said about the pass. vehicle. So if operating under assumption that i'm more likely to be hit by someone else, rather than hitting something one has to arrive to a conclusion that bigger/heavier vehicle is much safer than a smaller/lighter vehicle."