Replacing the rear window
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Replacing the rear window
Hey guys, I have some pretty big scratches in my rear window. I've heard its kind of a big deal to remove the window. Is that true? I'd like to replace it because it effects my night vision a little. Anyhow I've had that thing apart a million and one times I just haven't removed the glass from the door yet. Getting the glass off the regulator isn't a problem for me, I'm just unsure of the process from there.
The truck is an 88 with the defroster.
Thanks
Mike
The truck is an 88 with the defroster.
Thanks
Mike
#3
OK. Here we go...
1. get a saw horse with a blanket to hold the window when it is extended.
2. with the key in the tailgate or a helper, tilt the tailgate enough to clear the weather stripping in the topper, but enough so the position sensor allows the window to move up or down.
3. I also suggest that before you do anything else to remove the inspection plate on the inside of the tailgate so you can see the window rail.
When moving the rear window up, the rail should be visible and accessable.
4. Now on the rail you will see 4 rivets holding the windo in place with white plastic washers.
5. Take your drill and a 5/16 drill bit and carefully drill the top center out of the rivet. This will allow the rivet to let loose of the window. You can also grind these ends off also. Make sure to no destroy the black plastic holder with the metal washer in it.
Once the rivets are removed the window should slide right out.
6. for reinstallation you need to go to your hardware store and purchase about 8 plastic washers. These plastic washers will go in between the window and rail. You will also need to get (4) 1/4" x 1/2" bolts and nylon locking nuts. These will be used to replace the original rivets. Just make sure to secure the bolts, but not too tight; snug is fine.
If you have any problems, email me and I will send you my phone number and I will talk you through it. Once you do it you will find that it is very easy.
1. get a saw horse with a blanket to hold the window when it is extended.
2. with the key in the tailgate or a helper, tilt the tailgate enough to clear the weather stripping in the topper, but enough so the position sensor allows the window to move up or down.
3. I also suggest that before you do anything else to remove the inspection plate on the inside of the tailgate so you can see the window rail.
When moving the rear window up, the rail should be visible and accessable.
4. Now on the rail you will see 4 rivets holding the windo in place with white plastic washers.
5. Take your drill and a 5/16 drill bit and carefully drill the top center out of the rivet. This will allow the rivet to let loose of the window. You can also grind these ends off also. Make sure to no destroy the black plastic holder with the metal washer in it.
Once the rivets are removed the window should slide right out.
6. for reinstallation you need to go to your hardware store and purchase about 8 plastic washers. These plastic washers will go in between the window and rail. You will also need to get (4) 1/4" x 1/2" bolts and nylon locking nuts. These will be used to replace the original rivets. Just make sure to secure the bolts, but not too tight; snug is fine.
If you have any problems, email me and I will send you my phone number and I will talk you through it. Once you do it you will find that it is very easy.
#4
Remove front window
Originally Posted by RanchRodsTX
I ran into a little issue with removal of the glass from the door itself. I had to tilt the glass through the weatherseals so they would clear. It was a real pain!
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#7
Originally Posted by RanchRodsTX
It is not necessary to drill out the rivets, the slide rail will unbolt from the window. Dealing with the rivets is a bigger pain.
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#10
Originally Posted by JasonBrod
OK. Here we go...
1. get a saw horse with a blanket to hold the window when it is extended.
2. with the key in the tailgate or a helper, tilt the tailgate enough to clear the weather stripping in the topper, but enough so the position sensor allows the window to move up or down.
6. for reinstallation you need to go to your hardware store and purchase about 8 plastic washers. These plastic washers will go in between the window and rail.
1. get a saw horse with a blanket to hold the window when it is extended.
2. with the key in the tailgate or a helper, tilt the tailgate enough to clear the weather stripping in the topper, but enough so the position sensor allows the window to move up or down.
6. for reinstallation you need to go to your hardware store and purchase about 8 plastic washers. These plastic washers will go in between the window and rail.
The safety interlock switch that keeps the glass from moving with the tailgate open is in the driver's side latch. Open the tailgate, manually close BOTH cams of the driver's side latch (you will need to push them both at once or one will open the other as you close the opposite cam) and proceed to use either switch to run the window.
What are the plastic washers for? The nylon snap washers with the metal inserts should be all that are needed. The 1/4 bolts with ny-stop nuts will finish the job.
I only ask these questions because I've done a complete tailgate, regulator, and window replacement three times in as many years and I have yet to drag out a sawhorse or plastic washers. And, getting the window up or down by attmepting to partially close the tailgate is a recipe for disaster. Even if it works, the potential is there to run the window into the top and break it or the weight transfer as the window moves can shift the balance of the gate in your hands leading to possibly dropping it or shutting it on your hand.
Just a couple additional tips. Take 'em for what they are worth.
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#12
[QUOTE=greystreak92]Couple of questions... Why the blanket and the sawhorse?
The saw horse and blanket can be used to help support a taigate where the side cable are either broken or rotted. That is it mainly.
The safety interlock switch that keeps the glass from moving with the tailgate open is in the driver's side latch. Open the tailgate, manually close BOTH cams of the driver's side latch (you will need to push them both at once or one will open the other as you close the opposite cam) and proceed to use either switch to run the window. - Yes this does work too.
What are the plastic washers for? The nylon snap washers with the metal inserts should be all that are needed. The 1/4 bolts with ny-stop nuts will finish the job. Sometimes the white nylon snap washers which are between the window and the metal rail break while your are drilling out the rivets. The plastic nylon washers are wide enough to use as replacements.
This has just been my experience on the last 2 windows I have had to repair on my '84 and '86. I did forget that going up half way doesn't put the window in the window channel and you are still able to open the gate. So thank you for the correction.
The saw horse and blanket can be used to help support a taigate where the side cable are either broken or rotted. That is it mainly.
The safety interlock switch that keeps the glass from moving with the tailgate open is in the driver's side latch. Open the tailgate, manually close BOTH cams of the driver's side latch (you will need to push them both at once or one will open the other as you close the opposite cam) and proceed to use either switch to run the window. - Yes this does work too.
What are the plastic washers for? The nylon snap washers with the metal inserts should be all that are needed. The 1/4 bolts with ny-stop nuts will finish the job. Sometimes the white nylon snap washers which are between the window and the metal rail break while your are drilling out the rivets. The plastic nylon washers are wide enough to use as replacements.
This has just been my experience on the last 2 windows I have had to repair on my '84 and '86. I did forget that going up half way doesn't put the window in the window channel and you are still able to open the gate. So thank you for the correction.
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Checked it out today and it looks like pulling the rivets should be cake. Hope theres some wood around for me to knock on.
NOW for the important question, how much should I be paying for new glass. Can I get it with the defroster without a problem? Any other thoughts? Can I get it with a less visible defroster maybe? Those lines kind of kill me.
Mike
NOW for the important question, how much should I be paying for new glass. Can I get it with the defroster without a problem? Any other thoughts? Can I get it with a less visible defroster maybe? Those lines kind of kill me.
Mike
#15
Originally Posted by RanchRodsTX
Jason, I'm going to have to take exception on the slide rail issue. All of the slide rails I have seen have slots that mount to the studs on the lower metal glass retainer. True that the lower metal glass retainer is riveted to the glass, but not the slide rail.