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Old Nov 3, 2005 | 07:43 PM
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I picked up the gas. 75% AR/25% CO2. did not get the wirespool you suggested (yet). I'm going to give it a go with the wire I have on hand first which is .030 thick and some sort of Carbon Steel. Will the ESAB EZ grind make that big a difference? what are the advantages/disadvantages. I may go that route when I start doing the floor if it makes sense.

My welding and NDT experience has typically been with oil refinery, petrochemical and natural gas processing equipment and rarely involve light sheetmetal such as this. Once agian, I really appreciate all of the help thus far.
 
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Old Nov 3, 2005 | 09:09 PM
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Originally Posted by HT32BSX115
Aluminum was also VERY easy. So, If you even think you might want to try SS or Al, (using the right spool for your GMAW of course!)you might want to have the gas to do it! (I have never used a wirefeed welder for SS or AL though!)

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I've had some slight experience with welding aluminum with a wire feed. You use straight argon shield gas and a need a spool gun, mainly because aluminum wire is so soft that you can't push it through the length of the gun without it clogging up the liner. Its fairly easy if you have nice, new clean aluminum. Aluminum oxidizes pretty fast and is so pourous that it can soak up oils, etc. that can contaminate the puddle. The puddle itself is a bit hard to see.

I've never messed with a TIG and SS but I hear that it is pretty cool stuff to work with.
 
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Old Nov 3, 2005 | 09:34 PM
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Don't forget to switch the polarity when you hook up and run gas.
 
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Old Nov 3, 2005 | 09:43 PM
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Originally Posted by 3Mike6
Don't forget to switch the polarity when you hook up and run gas.
IT's on the list but thanks for the reminder.
 
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Old Nov 4, 2005 | 08:01 AM
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I weld stainless with my Lincoln mig and you are right, it is very easy to work with. I am very pleased with the results and the durability
 
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Old Nov 4, 2005 | 09:01 AM
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You can easily switch to a tank of Ar if you want to try Al or SS. The EZgrind wire is significantly softer than standard wire which makes it perfect for sheetmetal use where you may want to hammerweld or grind/sand the bead smooth. Easier grinding means less heat generated = less chance of warpage. Your machine must be able to handle 8# spools tho, the smallest spool available. No real downside except it's a little more expensive, but you'll save more than the difference in grinding/sanding wheels. Even if you stick with std wires do go to the thinner wire if your machine's feed can handle it. Note: Miller Hobart and Lincoln tips all interchange.

PS: do check out the welding group topic for a lot of tips!
 
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Old Nov 5, 2005 | 12:08 AM
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Hey Carl, when I started welding on my cab, I used a .035 mild steel wire that my father-in-law chose for me. I would take any recommendations that he throws my way considering that he was the welding professor for 20 years at the college here in central Oregon. He also did classes and projects at Oregon State University, and when they built the new bridge over Crooked River (a 300 foot high 4 laner with center lane approx 400 feet long), they called on him to inspect all of the weld work that had been done in order to approve it. If he said no good, the bridge was no good. Any how, I can get his e-mail for you if you'd like to e-mail him for some expert assistance in this matter. By the way, he does use CO2 gas for his welding. And his plasma cutter rocks .
 
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Old Nov 5, 2005 | 01:38 PM
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Texan...did you get the gas kit from the ebay auction number I posted or did you get it locally? I went out and got my bottle yesturday...boy they think alot of these bottles. The highest price was a 160 cubic ft. bottle for $202.00 with a fill charge of $68.00......I ended up getting a 160 cb. ft. for 139.00 with a fill chrg. of 20.00. I'm really looking forward to the improved welding with the gas set-up.
Good lick on your floorpan repair.

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Old Nov 5, 2005 | 06:05 PM
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Originally Posted by AXracer
You can easily switch to a tank of Ar if you want to try Al or SS.
I don't use Argon for SS, just my 75/25 mix. Seems to work fine.
 
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Old Nov 6, 2005 | 12:05 AM
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Wow everytime I think the cab on my 51 was in bad shape I come across someone who has a cab much worse off that mine was. Just my opinion but I would look for another cab, they are out there.
 
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Old Nov 6, 2005 | 08:15 AM
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Originally Posted by e william
Texan...did you get the gas kit from the ebay auction number I posted or did you get it locally? I went out and got my bottle yesturday...boy they think alot of these bottles. The highest price was a 160 cubic ft. bottle for $202.00 with a fill charge of $68.00......I ended up getting a 160 cb. ft. for 139.00 with a fill chrg. of 20.00. I'm really looking forward to the improved welding with the gas set-up.
Good lick on your floorpan repair.

Ed
I spent the $100.00 at Home Depot. Perhaps I am old school but I'm just not comfortable with ebay. No way to return it if there was a problem, etc.

Gas bottle - charged was $165.00 (122 cf). Looks like you did a little better than I did.
 
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Old Nov 6, 2005 | 11:56 AM
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Carl, ebay aint all that bad. Afterall, that's how I found the '53 firetruck, and we all know the screamin deal I stole that one for. And the '56 opencab fire truck down by you, I wish I could have bid against the other guy on that one, darn wife of mine just don't understand our addiction, but at least it's an addiction with only two possible bad consequences (divorce, and bankruptcy). Well, I didn't actually buy the 53 through ebay, I contacted the seller and made a deal with him in person over the phone and e-mail, there are some things I won't deal with on ebay.
 
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Old Nov 6, 2005 | 06:23 PM
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I shop ebay very heavily! I bought Gracie thru ebay as well as a lot of the tools and additions. There are certain "tells" on the sellers like a high number of positive feedbacks, as well as reading the description and the seller's terms very carefully. You also need to know what the item sells for elsewhere, or you could end up paying too much. I LOVE ebay!
 
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Old Nov 6, 2005 | 08:34 PM
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Depends on what you are buying I guess. For the truck stuff, I've actually done pretty well dealing with folks from this site. I trust us I guess.
 
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Old Nov 6, 2005 | 08:54 PM
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Is that comment directed towards our past engagement involving a certain 1949 Ford F-2? I know I am glad for the way it worked out. I don't think that old truck would of ever seen the road again in the location it was in. The guy was pretty cool and all, but he seemed too involved in his other projects to ever see that project even get started. I am glad I was able to help you and the F-2 get together for the sake of saving another old Ford truck from the eminant doom chosen by a greater power to see the destruction of our historic automobiles. Ok so maybe I'm suffering from a little lack of sleep syndrome and I am talking out of my ars. LOL
 
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