V10 timing chain noise?
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V10 timing chain noise?
I have a '99 V10 crew/shortbed with 122K miles and heard the brief clatter (1 second) of the timing chain hitting the timing cover when the engine was cold (had been running for 1 minute at 30 degrees F) on two occasions. The sound happens just as I hit 2800ish RPM before the 1-2 upshift on my steep driveway. It never occurs again as the truck is driven that day. I'm running 5w-30 oil, as recommended, and the engine is in good shape and appears to have had good maintenance during its life. The noise sounds exactly like the timing chain on my old 22RE 4Runner, at 203K miles, so I'm pretty sure it's a timing chain.
Is this likely just a sluggish hydraulic adjuster, or is there a known problem with the timing chains on these engines? I don't mind a brief clatter, but if the chain is in imminent danger of hopping a tooth and bending a valve, that is more serious.
Thoughts?
Thanks,
Steve
Is this likely just a sluggish hydraulic adjuster, or is there a known problem with the timing chains on these engines? I don't mind a brief clatter, but if the chain is in imminent danger of hopping a tooth and bending a valve, that is more serious.
Thoughts?
Thanks,
Steve
Last edited by SteveH-CO; 11-01-2005 at 09:37 AM. Reason: spelling correction
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Well this is interesting,never heard of rattling of timing chain on a v-10.
We have heard of pinging,knocking,piston slap and sparkplug spitin!
What makes you think its the timing chain???????
Could you have a heat shield problem or loose muffler or cat.
This would be a first,that Ive heard of it.
Now I know if you lugg these motors bad you will here some strange stuff
valve train noise.
Rich
We have heard of pinging,knocking,piston slap and sparkplug spitin!
What makes you think its the timing chain???????
Could you have a heat shield problem or loose muffler or cat.
This would be a first,that Ive heard of it.
Now I know if you lugg these motors bad you will here some strange stuff
valve train noise.
Rich
Last edited by FortyFords; 11-01-2005 at 10:36 AM.
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It's the classic sound of a timing chain hitting a timing cover - no other way to describe it. I used a non-Toyota tensioner in my 4Runner and heard the sound (and later learned that this was typical when this tensioner was used).
On the Ford, I've heard it twice and it sounded slightly different each time, but it wasn't piston slap (from what I understand) and I just replaced the serpentine belt. None of the other engine accessories appear to be on death row - so I don't suspect the water pump, PS pump, alternator, etc. I'll drive the truck tomorrow and see if I can reliably get it to make this sound again. If you've never heard the sound, it's not unlike that of a bicycle chain hitting a metal chainguard, but a bit more brash sounding and louder!
Steve
On the Ford, I've heard it twice and it sounded slightly different each time, but it wasn't piston slap (from what I understand) and I just replaced the serpentine belt. None of the other engine accessories appear to be on death row - so I don't suspect the water pump, PS pump, alternator, etc. I'll drive the truck tomorrow and see if I can reliably get it to make this sound again. If you've never heard the sound, it's not unlike that of a bicycle chain hitting a metal chainguard, but a bit more brash sounding and louder!
Steve
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SD flutter
Originally Posted by michaelmueller
Could this be the Super duty flutter that so many of us had to deal with?
If you don't know what that is, its the rattling noise that the inspection cover on the tranny makes and it only happens ocationaly and at around the rpm you describe, pop it off and see if the noise gose away.
If you don't know what that is, its the rattling noise that the inspection cover on the tranny makes and it only happens ocationaly and at around the rpm you describe, pop it off and see if the noise gose away.
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Originally Posted by vtmdsm25
What is Super Duty flutter? I may have that . .
At certain rpms it builds a resonance(sp) in sound or tone it will actually cause the 4r100 inspection cover to vibrate.
This coming from my memory of about 4 yrs back.
Rich
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