How Much Cheaper is Biodiesel?
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Tuned
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How Much Cheaper is Biodiesel?
I'm considering buying a used diesel SD and just started reading about biodiesel. Here in Southern OH, there is only one station that sells it, and its just B2. I'm wondering how much everyone is paying for the different grades of biodiesel and if they like using it in their PSD's?
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In Omaha, NE I pay about 5 cents a gallon more for B20 (20%). Although it does seems to get noticeably better mileage on biodiesel. On highway I went form 14.7 to 16.8mpg. Didn't seem to make a difference in the power output.
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In Seattle the Bio diesel folks need to learn a little about marketing. 
I checked on the price of Bio-diesel three weeks ago and it was 3.09 at Laurelhurst oil. Dino-d was 3.11. I thought "ok" the next time I need to fill up it's going to be Bio-diesel.
So this week rolls around and it's getting time to fill up again. I go down to the station and the price is up to 3.23. Thier Dino-d is 3.29. What gives??????????????? I can get Dino-d at the Safeway station for 3.17!
Bio-diesel doesn't require crude oil stock to make it.
I will continue to vote with my wallet if they are going to do this.
I checked on the price of Bio-diesel three weeks ago and it was 3.09 at Laurelhurst oil. Dino-d was 3.11. I thought "ok" the next time I need to fill up it's going to be Bio-diesel.
So this week rolls around and it's getting time to fill up again. I go down to the station and the price is up to 3.23. Thier Dino-d is 3.29. What gives??????????????? I can get Dino-d at the Safeway station for 3.17!
Bio-diesel doesn't require crude oil stock to make it.
I will continue to vote with my wallet if they are going to do this.
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B5 is still 95% petroleum and B20 is 80% petroleum. They should be less than straight dino but there will always be a price curve on the B blends that will parrallel the Dino curve. I'm tempted to try a tank just to see if the milage gains claimed for the B products check out in my engine.
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Brian,
Do you know what the costs to make a gal of B are compared to a gal of dino and if the costs of crude and the cost of bulk raw vegy oil were taken out of the equation do you know what the comparative costs of production on today's market would be?
Don
Do you know what the costs to make a gal of B are compared to a gal of dino and if the costs of crude and the cost of bulk raw vegy oil were taken out of the equation do you know what the comparative costs of production on today's market would be?
Don
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I really don't know, I just know the bio cost more according to our former neighbor who is one of the founding members of the bio-diesel board and development.
He is also the president of this consulting company http://www.marciv.com/about.htm
He is also the president of this consulting company http://www.marciv.com/about.htm
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Besides the ecological factor, what is the advantage to using veggie, increased fuel mileage? If the prices aren't cheaper than dino-d I know most people will not be tempted to try it, especially in a $7K engine. It's good to help the farmers and keep oil consumption, but just like manufacturing going overseas, most people are only concerened with the immediate price. And yes, we're all (well almost all) guilty of it!
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I checked last week with my fuel supplier for the farm and they quoted me (in 900 gallon purchase). from the base #2 price. Add $.02 for the premium additive package. Add another $.02 for the 5% soy. This give me a cetane of 51. Even my old diesels respond very well with this package. And for only $.04 additional it is worth it.
Also the new diesel fuel comming next year will have very little sulfur (for lubrication) of injection pumps of older diesels. the soydiesel will solve this.I wonder what will happen to the pumps, major rebuilds etc. without the bio?
Also the new diesel fuel comming next year will have very little sulfur (for lubrication) of injection pumps of older diesels. the soydiesel will solve this.I wonder what will happen to the pumps, major rebuilds etc. without the bio?
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