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I mud drag in a class that requires 15 in. of vaccum pulled at 1000 rpm, and I started using the total seal gapless rings and was able to run a larger cam than I had ever been able to before. It made a world of differance. So if you are racing than yes, but otherwise?
Why only for racing? I use them in ALL engines. Zero leakdown (or nearly so), better ring seal, nearly zero blowby.......all these thing promote better fuel mileage for one. And your oil stays cleaner for a longer period of time. Stays so clear, you can't even see it on the stick. The little extra power they make on the street, doesn't hurt anything either.
I've only used the gapless top ring sets. The others have only been out fairly recently, and I still have some of the zero gap top sets in stock. I would rather have ductile iron ring sets. I've never figured out what some see in moly rings. They're so stinking hard, they don't like to seat real well. I've known several people who ended up with oil burners, because moly rings require a different cylinder honing process then iron. I've heard about moly rings since the 70's, but I think that moly is more at home in race car tubing.
Why only for racing? I use them in ALL engines. Zero leakdown (or nearly so), better ring seal, nearly zero blowby.......all these thing promote better fuel mileage for one. And your oil stays cleaner for a longer period of time. Stays so clear, you can't even see it on the stick. The little extra power they make on the street, doesn't hurt anything either.
Steve,
I was not saying that they were for racing only, just I have used them for racing and they work great, but I have never tried them on a street engine. Thus the question mark.
I would rather have ductile iron ring sets. I've never figured out what some see in moly rings. They're so stinking hard, they don't like to seat real well.
i was told that the iron rings leave a bit metal on the cylinder every pass. Don't know myself...but I will be going gaples for my propane 400- no idea how to put them on so will punt on that.
Which gapless would be considered tops in a 11:1 cr propane motor?
i was told that the iron rings leave a bit metal on the cylinder every pass. Don't know myself...but I will be going gaples for my propane 400- no idea how to put them on so will punt on that.
Which gapless would be considered tops in a 11:1 cr propane motor?
Mine are Total seal, and they have to be file fitted, (max seal) the gapless are on the top ring and consist of two rings that fit into the same ring journal that I place each gap 180 degrees apart. I can't remeber if the instructions called for that much spacing of the two, or just 90, but that is what I have been doing.
The brand you buy will have the instructions with them.
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