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Old Oct 5, 2005 | 08:08 AM
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OK! There's is a big yellow wire with a white stripe, (looks like maybe a 10 gauge wire), coming off the back of the alt. The wiring harness that plugs into the alt. has three wires on it, a white wire with a black stripe on that plugs back into the alt., then there's a orange wire with a light blue stripe on it, and there's a light green wire with a red stripe on it. The diagram for the internal reg. shows two orange wires with black stripes and this one has only one with a light blue stripe. Would the big yellow wire and the orange wire go to the starter selenoid and the green wire splices into the wire for the gauge?

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Old Oct 5, 2005 | 01:32 PM
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Thumbs up Mr. Amp Alternator

GREAT diagram subford! However, does anyone know if the '76 F-Series (F150 4x4) is the same as the '78 diagram above?

I will be doing an alternator upgrade (Mr. Amp...130amp Alternator) this weekend...and this info would be helpful.


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Old Oct 5, 2005 | 02:40 PM
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Originally Posted by biz4two
GREAT diagram subford! However, does anyone know if the '76 F-Series (F150 4x4) is the same as the '78 diagram above?

I will be doing an alternator upgrade (Mr. Amp...130amp Alternator) this weekend...and this info would be helpful.


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Actually I was fudging a little in the 78 diagram above, I was using a 77 Ford F series schematic and a 1976 Ford shop manual for the above information. I was 99% sure it was correct for 1978 but I am 100% sure for the 1976. Note however the lower wire colors were for a late model alternator.

NOTE: HOWEVER I DO NOT KNOW WHAT VALUE THE RESISTOR SHOULD BE.

I was hoping that maybe Franklin2 would come in and answer that question for us.
 

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Old Oct 5, 2005 | 05:31 PM
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In the older trucks the resistor was 500 ohms. I am thinking it may be there in case the bulb blows out, the system would still charge, but I am not sure.


Note however the lower wire colors were for a late model alternator.
I am getting a little confused here myself. The diagram you made is a conversion diagram, to mate the old wiring with the newer alt correct? I didn't think they made an internal regulated alt back in the 70's? Just verifying what I think I am seeing.
 
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Old Oct 5, 2005 | 06:17 PM
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I am getting a little confused here myself. The diagram you made is a conversion diagram, to mate the old wiring with the newer alt correct?
YES

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I didn't think they made an internal regulated alt back in the 70's? Just verifying what I think I am seeing.
No they did not, the bottom part is from a 1995 diagram.

The top wire colors are from the 1970's
 
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Old Oct 5, 2005 | 07:13 PM
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I'm really confused now because the truck I'm working on is an '85. Anyway, I put the alt. on today and everthing seems to be working ok but I have noticed that Instr. panel lights are dimmer than what they were and I beleive the headlights are too! What have I done wrong?

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Old Oct 5, 2005 | 10:13 PM
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The external regulated alt system is basically the same for all those years, so that will work ok.

With it all installed now, with the engine running, take a voltmeter reading on the battery and report back.
 
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Old Oct 6, 2005 | 05:52 AM
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Sorry, now that I have gotten confused.

Well there were three people asking questions about this in the same threads.

The above diagram is for biz4two and Brian794x4.

In another thread ctvanover did say 1985 F-150.

Do you have a light or gauge?

The Alternator is from a 1995, right?

I wish people would start their own threads.

 
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Old Oct 6, 2005 | 07:39 AM
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Yep! The alt. is from a 95 but it seems to charging ok. What about the wires that went into the external reg. and the ones coming out of it... would they have something to do with dim instr. panel and maybe the headlights?

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Old Oct 6, 2005 | 08:20 AM
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Yep! The alt. is from a 95 but it seems to charging ok. What about the wires that went into the external reg. and the ones coming out of it... would they have something to do with dim instr. panel and maybe the headlights?

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Try this one and I think it will work OK and answer all your questions.
If not ask back.

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Old Oct 6, 2005 | 09:07 AM
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The diagram below is the way your old system was.

The ORN/Lt BLU wire is not used anymore.

The RED/GRN wire now goes to to the "S" (95 W/BK) term. of the three wire Alternator plug.

The YEL/WHT wire now goes to the "I" (95 LG/R) term. of the three wire Alternator plug.

The BIG BLK/ORN BAT. wire now goes to the "B+" term of the Alternator and if you also have a big yellow wire it would go on the B+ term. also. I think it goes to the Ign. Sw.

The WHT/BLK wire, I am not sure where it comes from but it would go on the single "S" plug of the 95 Alt.

And of course this is all wrong if you have a light and not a gauge.


 
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Old Oct 6, 2005 | 09:47 AM
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Please delete my first post in this thread as it is all wrong and wired wrong for a gauge system.

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