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Old Oct 4, 2005 | 07:19 AM
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woogs. sorry bout that confusion.
 
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Old Oct 4, 2005 | 08:21 AM
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Around here 5500 BTU window A/C units sell for $109. They draw 12 amps or less. I think this might be more effective then redneck A/C along with white or reflective window covers.
 
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Old Oct 4, 2005 | 08:38 AM
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That was an ok attempt. But the heat from the fan would probably negate any positive cooling effects from the tubing.

Here is another idea:

-Get disposable styrafoam cooler.
-Get a block of dry ice from the grocery store. ($2 or $3 per block around here.)
-Get some aluminum cans and empty them. (Hmmmm what kind of aluminum cans should be used?....and how should they be emptied?...lol. )
-Put the dry ice block in the bottom of the cooler.
-Layer the empty cans across the top to form a solid layer of cans with the open tops facing up.
-Then have the fan blow across the top of the cans.

In theory, the aluminum cans will work as a heatsink in reverse. It will transfer the coldness from the dry ice to the air and the air from the fan will transfer the coolness to the room. As the dry ice evaporates no water will be left behind.

So how's that for Redneck Engineering.
 
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Old Oct 4, 2005 | 09:42 AM
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cigarxtc - that sounds genius, and affordable. Paul is coming today to fix the A/C for good, but I'm still gonna try a few of these ideas. Thanks for all the input I'll let ya know how they work out.
-woogs
 
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Old Oct 4, 2005 | 11:15 AM
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might even try flattened cans stuck directly in the block of ice...more like a heat-sink and more surface area to tranfer cold to the air, because they could be placed closer together.
 
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Old Oct 4, 2005 | 11:30 AM
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You could flatten them, but in theory, if crushed you loose the insulating qualities of the air chamber inside the aluminum cans, thus cooling transfer could be increased, but at the sacrifice of a shorter lifespan for the dry ice block. But that is all just theory and I'm no rocket scientist, but I play one in my garage.
 
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Old Oct 4, 2005 | 11:39 AM
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Looks like the beginnings of a swamp cooler. They work. You just need more heat sinks, to allow more heat to be absorbed into the cold water.

Check these out:
http://www.swampy.net/im30.html
These work great, we use them on boats for overnighting.

It's a lot like what you're on track to build.
 
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Old Oct 4, 2005 | 02:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Baja Daze
Looks like the beginnings of a swamp cooler. They work. water.

Check these out:
http://www.swampy.net/im30.html
These work great, we use them on boats for overnighting.

It's a lot like what you're on track to build.
I agree. Depending what part of Texas you're in, and the humidity, new units from window size on up do a great job. They are only efficient when the dew point is under 50*. They're fairly inexpensive and easy to hook up..
Just a thought........
 
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Old Oct 4, 2005 | 06:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Fordzlla
redneck??
a few ideas come to mind..
First idea...... use all that ice to cool off a huge amount of really cheap beer. drink all the beer. .
Good idea. Let's analyze this just a little further:
Ice to cool down beer.
Drink Beer.
Get drunk.
Put empty cans back in ice to get cold.
Still hot.
Remove cans and place on kitchen floor.
Lay down on top of cold cans.
Still hot.

Don't care. You're drunk!

(Sorry. I couldn't help myself.)
 
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Old Oct 4, 2005 | 07:09 PM
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Fill your interior with ice cold cans of beer. When they warm up, drink em and buy new ones. If the cops ask, tell them you're on your way to the recycling plant. Crush the beer cans on your head for good measure. (don't wanna stomp them with your feet, could hurt yourself, sprain an ankle maybe. And don't buy heneiken in cans. Rednecks can't afford it anyways, so you dont gotta worry about that.
 
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Old Oct 4, 2005 | 07:55 PM
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Originally Posted by cigarxtc
You could flatten them, but in theory, if crushed you loose the insulating qualities of the air chamber inside the aluminum cans, thus cooling transfer could be increased, but at the sacrifice of a shorter lifespan for the dry ice block. But that is all just theory and I'm no rocket scientist, but I play one in my garage.
in a heat-sink, you don't want any insulating properties, you want thermal tranfer to happen as quickly as posible. or in this case a heatsink operating in reverse. and if it's melting/subliming the ice faster, it's working better. again in theory. for the record, I'm not a rocket scientist either,but I did stay at a holiday inn express last night though.
 
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Old Oct 4, 2005 | 08:03 PM
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Basically, you guys are all trying to build a swamp cooler. (kind of). everyone is trying to cool a coil of water with a fan blowing thru it. build something that will evaporate water as the wind blows thru it, now you are cooling the air. but these only work if the humidity is around 20% or less. in the summer my swamper will keep my house about 78 degrees when its 110 outside. a little water, a little electricity to run the water pump and the fan motor, and I'm comfy. Not free, but a heck of a lot less than my air conditioner. We turn that on when it gets humid.
 
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Old Oct 4, 2005 | 08:25 PM
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whay did it go out, low on coolant? need a/c lubricant and a recharge??
 
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Old Oct 5, 2005 | 06:34 PM
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Figure the parts of the house or trailer the sun heats up the most, and find a way to shade them. (step 1)

Gather cool air at night or in the early morning hours, and avoid leaving doors open longer than you gotta during the day. (step 2)

Look for stuff that creates heat in the house, and decide if it needs to run all the time (step 3)

Partition off "COOL AREAS" using blankets or hangings in the parts of the house you need to, or alternately create a "BREEZEWAY" where air can flow through the middle of the house and cool stuff off as much as possible.

Ventilate the attic so that it doesn't become an oven right over your heads. The average attic space can run up at least as high in temperature as a closed automobile in direct sun. That heat will radiate downward if not gotten rid of...


Just some thoughts, but you may find them both practical and effective!


~Greywolf
(With sympathy)
 
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Old Oct 5, 2005 | 07:24 PM
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