Any 6 cylinder diesel wether it be a baby isuzu or peeweestroke would be useless ina 3/4 ton vehicle. I need all eight (or give me 6 inline) pressure chambers to pull my 9000lbs toy hauler. A 6 cylinder stroker would definatley go good in a 1/2 ton though (Expy/F150).

Sad to see it go, but good thing the dizzle's last long enough. maybe we can weather the storm and be ready to get that all new bigger and badder CANYONERO (Simpson's Episode making fun of the Excursion) down the road.

As long as there is progress, the loss of the Excursion could open the door for something even better by Ford. Seems impossible at this time, but one awesome vehicle can spawn another.

 

NO, NO, NO keep that whale alive. F opec.

 

It makes you wonder how these guys keep their jobs after making decisions like that!

 

I wouldn't be surprised if the people behind the Excursion were fighting this all the way. After all, somebody worked the system and convinced the exec to build an SUV on a F250 last decade -- pretty forward-thinking and certainly a smart "read" on the market to have what would become the only diesel SUV and easily the best tow-vehicle SUV by a country mile. Then, I think in direct response to market sentiment, Ford held off the axe for the Ex another year or three, put in a better diesel engine, updated the equipment a little, gave it a bath and a make-over and sold it from '03 to '05, three more years. Not a bad show of loyalty to a model that was selling in numbers that don't even blip on the radar at Ford. I think CAFE might be an issue. I think low sales might be an issue, but if they thought it was a _growth_ market, they'd keep it (after all, Hybrids are low sales, it's just perceived as growth) and, somewhat ironically, if Ford made it CNG out of the box, it would be SULEV (or whatever) and eligible to ride solo-driver in the HOV/commute lanes -- which is apparently a major selling point for the Prius right now (at least consumer surveys report buyers made the decision with the tipping point being the HOV-access as a killer feature...) Imagine the HOV lane crowded with Excursions thundering along. I'd love to get in the HOV lane with a bio-diesel Excursion, that would be just perfect.

ps. Anyone out there converted to bio-diesel? Is there a fuel source in Northern California?

 

most of the bio diesiel that I've heard of is the type you've gotta make yourself. It's a lot cheaper that way from what I hear.

 

It is a sad day. I like all of you would not be caught driving a vehicle other than my X.

ssolid

 

ymmv,
Do a search on this forum for more info on running on bio-diesel, no mods needed for the pumped stuff (Bio-Diesel Station), but there may be warranty issues (over B-5). I can get B-100 and B-20 locally near my work, but I do not use it. Also check under the diesel forums for the bio-diesel forum.
https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/f...lay.php?&f=168
Where to buy:
http://www.biodiesel.org/buyingbiodiesel/retailfuelingsites/

 

Thanks for the links.

(Sorry to hear about your being downsized twice ... you must be able to get a job at the circus by now ... : )

 

I to am sad to see the big monsters go...and that's why I ordered mine, and took delivery in January 2005.

The demise of the Ex may have something to do with fuel economy, but mostly sales.

As much as I love mine, they jsut have not been good sellers the past few years. I was at the AACA Hersehy event last week, and there certainly was no shortage of Excursions. I must have seen 10. People like me that tow a car trailer around but have no use for a pick-up, find the Excursion perfect.

Back on topic. Sales this year were not good. I am sure in some markets, the demand is better that others. In the Philly Zone, the month I bought mine...only 2 were sold. Repeat....the entire Philadelphia zone sold 2...yep, 2...in January 2005.

 

You're right about slow sales. I was watching the clock run down on the "employee" pricing promotion (which turned out to be about $2K better than normal discounting, but not the throw-away pricing they would have you believe...) Anyway, every time I checked local inventory, they had about the same number of Excursions. V10's, as far as I was told, just don't sell and they (local dealers) didn't order the V8 gas engine at all (maybe it wasn't even produced) for the last year.
Each time I walked into one of the local four or five dealers, the reaction was about the same -- every guy wants an Excursion or a 250, but they end up in an Expedition, so let's just go look at the Expedition, shall we?
The sales guys have been taught by repetition that a customer walking in the door or exchanging emails with the "Internet sales" guy (every sales person seems to take Web orders these days) was never expecting a sale because who in their right mind would buy a big SUV these days? ... Toyota is right over the street there, sonny, now go get yourself a Tacoma and if you get the V8 over the V6, good for you.

 

ymmv....at least in '05, the V10 was standard. You would have to order the no cost option of the V8.

When I ordered mine, knowing it was the last year, I wanted the V10. I knew the MPG would not be great, but after driving a 7.3 and 6.0, the diesel would not ahve owrked for me.

 

ymmv,
FYI, I don't look like Cotton Hill. It's short (no pun intended) for Downsized-to-X (Excursion).