Or, more like i did then it ran worse so i put it back.

So i disconnected the Spout, the only removeable plug besides the one directly into the dist. right??

Painted the THIN hard to see mark on the dampner florecent pink.

Put the timing lead on the #1 plug wire

Used the PASS side timing hole.

I got it into the hole and it ran TERRIBLY, i mean had no power.
Backed it off till it was 1/2 way from the hole to where the braket ends toward the frame rail. Runs much better.

IF the hole is the pointer and it is the rec'd. 10 degrees
why does it run crappy like that???

Did i do it wrong??

First time timin this engine, did it by ear before, but i want to get it right.

What should i set it at???

What do i need to do??

thanks

DT

 

What did you think your initial timing was and where do you feel it was at when you adjusted it?

When in doubt, find TDC and go from there aka bring the number one cylinder to TDC on the compression stroke, double check your timing marks, make sure everything is legible, use your timing light (looking for a flash were everything lines up at your desired BTDC) or set the engine at the desired BTDC and point the distributor rotor directly at the center of the number one plug terminal.

 

it wasn't even close to the braket, not sure there aren't any numbers on it. It runs fine now but i want to get it timed right.

it was too much turned toward the firewall if that means anything, the wireharness out of the dist was parrallel with the firewall, like pointing at the framerail at a right angle.

What should it be set at???

DT

 

Take some white pigment, house paint or what have you, put it on your finger, now rub it into the timing pointer (left of the hole you speak of). You will see numbers appear.

Now, forget the distributor exists.

Find TDC.

Go buy a pistons stop that threads into the spark plug hole (or you can use a screwdriver wrapped in tape but you have to be consistent).

Remove number one spark plug.

Put your finger over the hole, have a buddy rotate the engine clockwise BY HAND, once you feel air blow past your finger, stop.

Insert the piston stop, rotate the engine BY HAND until it stops. Now, make a faint reference mark on the damper, now make a mark on the timing pointer or block that coincides with the damper mark you've made.

Remove the pistons stop, rotate the engine BY HAND about 1/4-1/2 turn of the damper.

Now place the piston stop into the number one spark plug hole.

Rotate the engine BY HAND the OPPOSITE direction until the engine once again stops.

Now using the faint reference mark on the damper, make a mark on the timing pointer or block thats inline with this mark.

Remove the piston stop and reinstall the spark plug and plug wire.

Now you have two marks either on the timing pointer or the block, find the center point of these two marks and mark it, this is temporary TDC. Now, rotate the engine (the shortest distance) until the faint damper reference mark is inline with the temporary TDC mark. Your at TDC, woohoo.

NOw if possible, remove all marks made.

Now look at the timing pointer, find "0" (aka TDC), make a noticable mark on the damper that coincides with "0" (aka TDC).

Now looking at the timing pointer, make a mental note of where 8-10 BTDC is or highlight it.

Now loosen the distributor slightly, remove spout connector, set up your timing light.

Start the engine, now when you see the timing light flash, you should see the TDC mark on the damper flash at 8-10 BTDC, if not adjust accordingly. Now you can play around with the timing. Advanced is more BTDC, retard is less BTDC, if you adjust the timing and it idles like chit, then you can almost bet you retarded it.

Good luck


Side note, if you do use a screwdriver, you have to make sure its inserted identically the second time as the first, otherwise, this will not be accurate. I suggest wrapping it with tape just to be sure you don't scratch anything. Do this at your own risk.

 

Hi, what timing hole are you referring to?????? There is no hole. The timing plate is bolted to the timing cover low on the passengers side of the timing gear cover and has what looks like large saw teeth and one large groove between the teeth--that is 10 degrees. The plate is also marked with the degree numbers. There is a hole on the plate but that is for a sensor probe used by the dealer, or at least I think it is.


stractor

 

i'll have to look at it again, but there was a hole, and i'll have to scape the crap off the rest of the braket once the rain lets up.

I'll let ya'll know how it turns out

Thanks

DT

 

OK it is sort of a hole, it is more of a sleeve to hold a probe. If you used that hole to set your timing you set it about 40 degrees retarded.

stractor

 

yea that'd explain it, if it wasn't raining i'd go get it right.

Thanks

DT

 

ok scrapped all the crap off, and found the numbers.

set her at 10 BTDC, like speced, still feel like i gotta play with it a little but it runs great with lots of power, can hear the lope from the cam now, amazing how much louder the engine is, i say before it was set at around 20

I'm gonna play with it a little more and see how it goes,

I set it at like 0TDC and drove to school, not knowing, and it sucked gas down and was harder to start cold.

I'll keep playing with it and keep ya'll up dated

DT

 

Glad you got it lined out, what camshaft are you using?

 

um it was put in by the original owner, the guy i bought it from.
It was put in in 02' i bought it on July 17 04'

I believe he said A crane powermax 260 or something close to that.

He also had 4.10 gears and lockers put in it, for hauling his GN cattle trailer.

Less work for me to have to do

DT

 

pssst................................Soundclip.

 

yea, i've got a friend that's half asian(means he's got the hook up on electronics) tommorrow at school i'll get him to do it with his video camera

thanks for reminding me.

DT

 

Mine seems to run best at about 12*.

Stock motor

 

, Ok, will look for it then.

If you need someone to host/put it online, e-mail it to me. No problem at all, just keep it reasonable, about 30 seconds (using my digital camera) can be transfered via yahoo easily.