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Old Sep 18, 2005 | 12:17 AM
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Using a torch to lower

A few friends of mine had a discussion about ways to lower a truck. A couple guys came up with using a torch and heating only the rear portion of the main leaf spring. The heat acts like re-arching your springs? Anyone heard of this method or tried it?
 
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Old Sep 18, 2005 | 12:29 AM
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I did this in the 70's to my 54 F100. Cheapest way at the time. With all the stuff out today to lower the rear, I don't think I'd do it again.
 
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Old Sep 18, 2005 | 01:16 AM
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Bad plan. I've seen quite a few springs fail shortly after the torch treatment. As Ed said, there are many ways to do it safely. Doesn't have to cost much to do it right.
 
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Old Sep 18, 2005 | 11:37 AM
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I'm not planning on doing it myself, however my friends truck's springs need replacing anyways, He was going to try and heat them to lower it since he's going to replace them in the near future anyways. I was just wondering if its possible and if it will actually lower the truck? I recall doing it to coil springs and sometimes they would get lower, but sometimes they'd keep going lower than you wanted to. There isn't much control on the heat portion of the springs...or one side would be lower than the other and you keep going back and forth trying to find a balance. Then your too low and need to replace the springs... LOL... He's just looking for a fast way to slam his truck. Never heard of it done to leafs...
 
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Old Sep 18, 2005 | 11:55 AM
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Yep, it's going to lower her, but like you said, back and forth touch without beers should get her done.
 
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Old Sep 18, 2005 | 11:57 AM
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Move the axle to the top of the leaf spring, if it is on the top put a lowering block in.



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I'm not planning on doing it myself, however my friends truck's springs need replacing anyways, He was going to try and heat them to lower it since he's going to replace them in the near future anyways. I was just wondering if its possible and if it will actually lower the truck? I recall doing it to coil springs and sometimes they would get lower, but sometimes they'd keep going lower than you wanted to. There isn't much control on the heat portion of the springs...or one side would be lower than the other and you keep going back and forth trying to find a balance. Then your too low and need to replace the springs... LOL... He's just looking for a fast way to slam his truck. Never heard of it done to leafs...
 
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Old Sep 18, 2005 | 12:57 PM
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Yep, it's going to lower her, but like you said, back and forth touch without beers should get her done.
It could be done "with beers" if you used "Beer Goggles", things always look better then.
 
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Old Sep 19, 2005 | 01:29 PM
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Ed, don't do it. It could fail while you're going down the road and cause an accident.Quick and easy is very seldom the way to go. Good luck, Jag
 
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Old Sep 19, 2005 | 01:32 PM
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Old down and dirty "getto" lowering method, but I'm with FF in saying don't do it! First the heat changes the temper of the spring which could leave them soft which would continue to bend with each bump, or very brittle which could result in a very serious accident should the leaf break at speed. Second there is no way to control the amount of bend, he could find his truck sitting on the frame in a matter of seconds or one side higher than the other side. He can remove leaves and/or re-arch the main leaf (even reverse eye it) at no cost but labor to lower his truck.
 
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Old Sep 19, 2005 | 03:57 PM
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Originally Posted by AXracer
Old down and dirty "getto" lowering method, but I'm with FF in saying don't do it! First the heat changes the temper of the spring which could leave them soft which would continue to bend with each bump, or very brittle which could result in a very serious accident should the leaf break at speed. Second there is no way to control the amount of bend, he could find his truck sitting on the frame in a matter of seconds or one side higher than the other side. He can remove leaves and/or re-arch the main leaf (even reverse eye it) at no cost but labor to lower his truck.
Yeah, what he said. And you can even add a couple more options. Extended rear brackets work well for under $100, or raise the front bracket for about free. These methods will lower a truck plenty to cause shock travel issues, other interference issues etc. But unlike the torch, you can easily raise it back up to suit if needed
 
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Old Sep 19, 2005 | 05:40 PM
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One other issue with the torch method: since heating the spring causes it to bend in the opposite direction from the arch you can run into spring bind from the changed geometry or interference between the spring and the shackle which will produce a very harsh ride at best or a broken spring at worse.

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Old Sep 19, 2005 | 05:42 PM
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Both my first and second cars (51 ford tudoor and a 37 pontiac tudoor) were lowered by heating the springs (this was in 1957/58) never broke a spring but never had any susp travel. I was a 16 year old kid and thats how we would lower our cars. Advance forward about 40 yrs, bought a 54 mercury car, guess what heated springs only this time who ever did it removed a couple of the leaves on one side to make the rear level.

Reversed eye rear springs have replaced the heated rear and if I ever get my 56 back on the road I will replace the front coils with dropped spindles and 2 inch shorter coils, plus disk brakes.
 

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Old Sep 19, 2005 | 07:50 PM
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Originally Posted by 4tl8ford
It could be done "with beers" if you used "Beer Goggles", things always look better then.
does ''Beer Goggles'' refer to the Heiniken ads as run in Sweden?
 
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Old Sep 19, 2005 | 10:46 PM
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LOL...... You guys are too late.... LOL.. I stopped by my buddies house after work today and noticed he applied the torch to his rear springs. (sorry, I'm still laughing) The right side is about 2 inches lower than the right side, He keeps heating the spring up to make them even, but they keep saging more and are no way near being level. LOL... Looks like he'll be putting an order in for new springs. May have to take my camera to his house for a good laugh. I guess he should of read these posts before sparking up the torch. LOL.... Maybe I can get him to post on methods of lowering the front end to match the rear. ROFL.....
 
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Old Sep 19, 2005 | 11:37 PM
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Some are destined to keep reinventing the wheel but not the airpump.
 
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