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Old Sep 16, 2005 | 09:00 PM
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Turn Signal Problems... Please Help!

I have a 1974 Ford Pickup and my turn signals all stopped working. I checked the fuse and it is fine. No display inside and they are not working on the outside. What would cause this? I did do some work behind the instrumental panel... could I of messed something up or unplugged something accidentally. Please help since this is my daily driver I need to get it fixed quickly.
 
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Old Sep 16, 2005 | 09:55 PM
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Check your blinker stat under the dash. There are two of them. One is for your turn signals, the other is for your emergency flashers. If your flashers work stick your head under the dash and listen for the blinker stat clicking. It's a kinda metallic tink sound. Once you know it works unplug it from the harness and plug it into the regular blinker harness. If your blinkers work just replace the one one you took out. The blinker wiring runs down through the column I doubt working under the dash would mess it up.
 
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Old Sep 17, 2005 | 09:21 PM
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Turn Signals Still Won't Work!

I got under the dash and switched the hazard stat with the blinker stat and it still didn't work. Both stats worked fine in the hazard light hookup. What else could cause this problem? Thanks.
 
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Old Sep 17, 2005 | 10:05 PM
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The dash wiring goes into a printed circuit at one location at back of the instrument cluster I believe so if it wasn't plugged in right nothing would work. If you had the column apart it's possible something let go there. Usually it's the plastic piece that sits under the wheel. Check your brake lights to see if they work you might have accidently unpluged the sending unit on the petal while under the dash. Check also for a loose or disconnected ground wire too. It might help if I knew what kind of work you did under the dash also if you don't mind. Keep in touch.
 
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Old Sep 18, 2005 | 07:49 AM
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There is a great tech article here on turn signal diagnosis.
 
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Old Sep 18, 2005 | 09:07 PM
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Might be the hazard switch in the column. All circuits for lights run through it. If there are cheap parts at your local junkyard (or they have a good return policy), grab a switch from another truck similar in year to yours. You need to remove the wheel, but the harness disconnects near your feet with a semi-circle shaped connector. Later (1978-up) trucks had a column shroud that contained the wiring to the switch which made it easy to pull the wiring and connector right up through. The earlier trucks without the shroud are a little more troublesome. For the purpose of this test, try to find a later setup. Unplug your harness, and while leaving it in place, plug in the new harness to the connector and try your signals and brake lights. If it works, install your new switch. If not, try to get your money back on the purchase (or sell on ebay once you fix your problem and test the new switch for operation)
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Old Sep 18, 2005 | 10:00 PM
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Double check the fuse connections

I just went through this on my 76. Turn signals stop working, but all running, brake and four ways still worked. Turned out the contacts in the fuse panels where corrored, cleaned them up with a wire brush and they work great now.
 
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Old Sep 19, 2005 | 02:23 AM
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Thanks for all the help! I have tried several things and they still don't work. I don't think it has anything to do with the fuse because my reverse lights work and that is on the same fuse if I am not mistaken. My plan is to trace the wires out of the steering column until I find the problem. Anyone know how many wires and what color they probably would be? Thanks.
 
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Old Sep 19, 2005 | 02:43 AM
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check your light bulbs in your turn signals alot of times a bulbs burns out and they tend to stop working.Make sure there is no corrision in the sockets.
 
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Old Sep 19, 2005 | 08:38 AM
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ALL the wires in the column are from the turn signals and brakes. Like I said, under the dash, a semi-circular connector is what you need. Just follow the only wires leading from the column.
 
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Old Sep 19, 2005 | 11:26 AM
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Thanks for all the help! I have tried several things and they still don't work. I don't think it has anything to do with the fuse because my reverse lights work and that is on the same fuse if I am not mistaken. My plan is to trace the wires out of the steering column until I find the problem. Anyone know how many wires and what color they probably would be? Thanks.
I do not have a 1974 print but looking at a 1968 and a 1977 print the wire colors would be as follows

The color of the left rear turn/brake wire 1968= #283 Red-White Stripe, 1977=#283 Yellow-Black Stripe

The right rear turn/brake wire 1968= #282 Green, 1977=#282 Green

The front left turn bulb wire 1968= #3 Green-White Stripe, 1977= #3 Green White Stripe

The front right turn wire 1968=#2 White Blue Stripe, 1977= #2 White Blue Stripe

In 1977 & 1968 the above bulbs will have a brown wire shown alongside the other color going to the rear lamps. In 1968 the Rear was # 285 was brown and the front was #11 Black Yellow Stripe. The brown and black yellow stripe wires are the running lights, so just ignore those wires.

The inputs to the column would be:

Color of the power wire coming from the
brake switch. 1968= #810 Red-Black Stripe, 1977=#810 Red Black Stripe

Color of the power wire coming from the turn signal flasher. 1968= #44 Blue, 1977=#44 Blue

Color of the power wire coming from the hazard Switch. 1968= #810A Red-Black Stripe, 1977=#385 White Red Stripe

Note 1968 #810 & 810A merge at plug "S" going to Turn Signal Switch.
Note 1968 Emergency Warning Switch will feed front wires #2 & #3.



 
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Old Sep 19, 2005 | 12:20 PM
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The main feed wire feeding the turn signal is a red wire with a black stripe. On the turn signal harness on the steering column, verify for positive "+" voltage on the red wire with a black stripe.

A quick test, Run a positive feed (separate wire) from the turn signal fuse or from another positive source, to the red wire with black stripe on the steering column and check to see if the turn signal will function properly.

The problems seems to be from the fuse panel to the turn signals switch.
 
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