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Old Sep 16, 2005 | 09:52 PM
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Remember that Trucks and Cars are made to crumble to absorb impact. Better then your body takeing the full impact blow. I wouldn't drive a supercab truck, no B pillar.
 
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Old Sep 17, 2005 | 10:59 AM
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Well, some people drive these things (4x4s) like cars and they aren't. I drove my SD 260,000 miles and never even came close to a roll-over. Just drive defensively, don't go too fast for conditions and pay attention! When your sphincter (sp?) starts to tighten up, slow down and back off. It isn't a tank and it isn't indestructible. SDs just look that way.
 
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Old Sep 17, 2005 | 02:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Jackflack
Remember that Trucks and Cars are made to crumble to absorb impact. Better then your body takeing the full impact blow. I wouldn't drive a supercab truck, no B pillar.
Funny how the old cars didn't abosorb impact and didn't have seat belts and we still have people dying left and right on the roads.

Give me something with a frame and a body that isn't going to fall apart as soon as it impacts something. Course that's why I drive a truck.
 
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Old Sep 18, 2005 | 04:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Mark Oomkes
Funny how the old cars didn't abosorb impact and didn't have seat belts and we still have people dying left and right on the roads.

Give me something with a frame and a body that isn't going to fall apart as soon as it impacts something. Course that's why I drive a truck.
The problem there is more of the impact energy is transferred to YOU rather than being absorbed by the crumple zones. Even the trucks have crumple zones, or weak spots designed into the frame to absorb a frontal impact. You can always fix or get a new truck, can't get a new body or life.

Lets face it though, a 7000 lb truck landing on the roof at speed is gonna be ugly any way you look at it. Unless you put in a solid frame mounted roll bar / cage, not a cheap dress-up bed mounted one, being on the roof is not good.
 
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Old Sep 18, 2005 | 03:28 PM
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heres a rollover
http://www.dealsonwheels.com/search/...-200507-000001

another

http://www.dealsonwheels.com/search/...-200506-000006

another

http://www.dealsonwheels.com/search/...-200503-000001

another

http://www.autosinternationales.com/main.cfm?p=100&Bid=1&VEHICULE_ID=5982&TypeVEHICULE =acc&l=En#javascriptoNothing();


here's an article
http://www.citizen.org/autosafety/le...s.cfm?ID=11268
 
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Old Sep 19, 2005 | 09:16 AM
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Wow, those SDs look pretty good to me. It would be nice to know how the occupants fared the crash.

And that sad story? Just another example of why you just need to hit the friggin deer. Just say no to swerve.

Mike
 
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Old Sep 19, 2005 | 10:30 AM
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Originally Posted by mwpierson
Wow, those SDs look pretty good to me.

I would disagree that the SD's look good. The roof structure of those trucks was probably a lot closer to the top of the doors at the moment of impact...It would be interesting to know if those trucks remained upside down or righted themselves during the crash. The roof structure may actually be sitting higher now due to a rescue effort or the trucks being righted after the crash...Either way those photos are a true testament to the violence of the impact. Pretty scary stuff!

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Old Sep 19, 2005 | 11:21 AM
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That's enough for me to consider getting a roll cage installed on the next SD. I can't subject my family to that. I wonder how much it would cost?
 
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Old Sep 19, 2005 | 12:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Bigfront
I would disagree that the SD's look good. The roof structure of those trucks was probably a lot closer to the top of the doors at the moment of impact...It would be interesting to know if those trucks remained upside down or righted themselves during the crash. The roof structure may actually be sitting higher now due to a rescue effort or the trucks being righted after the crash...Either way those photos are a true testament to the violence of the impact. Pretty scary stuff!

Bigfront
I'll disagree with you and agree with mwpierson. It's impossible to tell, but my educated guess is that the roof structures were not changed by extrication efforts. None of the doors that are visible have been removed, most look like they are latched shut. I can just about guarantee (99%) that those doors would have been removed during extrication--if it had been required, whether the vehicle was on its wheels or roof. If not removed, they would have been bent back or the hinges\latches torn so that they would not latch by themselves. Roofs will not be 'raised' by righting the vehicle after the crash, the tow truck will hook onto a frame member or an axle to right them. The roof will stay in the same position it was while on its roof.

My guess also is that these trucks ended up on their wheels after rolling.
 
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Old Mar 29, 2025 | 08:26 PM
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Originally Posted by SpartanDieselTech
My thoughts exactly.

I fail to see how one could roll an SD on flat, dry pavement. Now, if you leave the road into a ditch, curb, ect. It is very possible...the key is to stay on the road itself. An SD will skid and flatspin all day long on dry pavement up 100 mph and over without rolling, as long as you stay on the tarmac.
Agreed. Any vehicle leaving the pavement and entering the swale area between the highways while at an angle WILL roll. I survived a roll over in a Ford Ranger and the thing that saved me was that heaver camper shell mounted to the bed.
 
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