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Old Sep 12, 2005 | 09:48 AM
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Manual Locking Hub Retaining Ring

I had to replace a spindle on my son's 88 Bronco this weekend due to a bad wheel bearing scoring the original spindle. The problem I have is I can't get the outer retaining ring back on the axel after inserting the manual locking hub it lack's about 1/16" of making it. I had to put a new needle bearing in the spindle and was wondering if anyone has ever had this problem before? I thought maybe I need to press the bearing in a little more. What will happen if he drive the truck without this retaining? Thanks for any help
 
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Old Sep 12, 2005 | 11:36 AM
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Make sure the lock washer/spacer with the holes in it is mating up with the other washer with the pin on it. That pin needs to go into one of those holes or you can fit the hub back in. Thats what it sounds like to me.....but with out seeing it.....????

There aint too much in there to go wrong.....just pull the hub back out and remove the nut and re torque it all back down and then reassemble????
 
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Old Sep 12, 2005 | 11:42 AM
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I rechecked it last night when we got the truck home and the washer and nuts seem to be aligned correctly. The only thing that i can think that might cause this is the new needle bearing I had to install in the spindle. The spot for the bearing was a lot deeper than the bearing. Thanks for replying
 
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Old Sep 12, 2005 | 11:44 AM
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Its so hard to say without seeing it. You think you can post a few pics.....if you can I am 99% sure someone here will spot the fault in no time at all!
 
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Old Sep 12, 2005 | 05:57 PM
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When I had this problem it was as simple as putting a screwdriver through the u joint and pulling the axle out while I put the lock ring on. Could you tell how far back the old bearing was If so did you install the new one that far back.
Sorry for the simple reply but I don't know how much you know about mechanics so I remind people of the simple stuff first.
 
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Old Sep 12, 2005 | 06:35 PM
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Yup. Take a crowbar to your outer u-joint and pry that axle to you. You'll be able to get it on then.

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Old Sep 12, 2005 | 06:35 PM
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When I had this problem it was as simple as putting a screwdriver through the u joint and pulling the axle out while I put the lock ring on. Could you tell how far back the old bearing was If so did you install the new one that far back.
Sorry for the simple reply but I don't know how much you know about mechanics so I remind people of the simple stuff first.
Thats a excellent point.....I totally forgot about that one......and yes it is very common. You need to pry the u-joint inward toward the center!!!
 
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Old Sep 13, 2005 | 08:11 AM
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I had already tried to pry the axel forward and it was bottoming out on the back side of the spindle. So after removing the spindle for the third time we noticed that the used spindle I picked up at a local 4x4 shop was just slightly different than the one that was on the truck its about 3/16" longer . We are going to try to find a better match and see if that was the problem. Thanks for the reply's
 
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Old Sep 13, 2005 | 11:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Sf006
I had already tried to pry the axel forward and it was bottoming out on the back side of the spindle. So after removing the spindle for the third time we noticed that the used spindle I picked up at a local 4x4 shop was just slightly different than the one that was on the truck its about 3/16" longer . We are going to try to find a better match and see if that was the problem. Thanks for the reply's
Please post back here and let us all know what the final verdict was!
 
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Old Sep 14, 2005 | 10:53 AM
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The problem eneded up being the spindle. The first one they sold us was about 3/16" longer than the second. By just looking at them you couldn't see the difference until we turned it upside down (small end down) then you could see the difference. Thanks for all the reply's.
 
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Old Sep 14, 2005 | 02:23 PM
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This posts seems to relate to a problem I'm having. I was looking at my passenger side manual hub, which is loose. I can pry on ujoint and it will cinch the hub tight, but upon letting up the pressure, the manual hub becomes loose again. I would guess it is a 1/16" of "wiggle" room. I thought maybe a wheel bearing, but no play in the wheel itself - none at all. If the wheel bearing or it's lock nut were loose, wouldn't the wheel be loose? I'm confused and need a drink, err...help. Thanks.
 
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Old Sep 14, 2005 | 02:40 PM
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On mine the back side of the manual hub would bottom out on the outer edge of the spindle. I pulled the Rotor off and then slid the locking hub onto the axel so I could see better what was happening. Hope this helps
 
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Originally Posted by scootin
This posts seems to relate to a problem I'm having. I was looking at my passenger side manual hub, which is loose. I can pry on ujoint and it will cinch the hub tight, but upon letting up the pressure, the manual hub becomes loose again. I would guess it is a 1/16" of "wiggle" room. I thought maybe a wheel bearing, but no play in the wheel itself - none at all. If the wheel bearing or it's lock nut were loose, wouldn't the wheel be loose? I'm confused and need a drink, err...help. Thanks.
Yes, if your bearing was'nt seated properly and your bearing nut was loose, your rotor and hub would flop around a little. Sounds to me like the retaining clip was'nt put back on.

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Old Sep 15, 2005 | 09:35 AM
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Matt...

Thanks for the reply. The thing is, the rotor does not move at all - just the manual locking hub is loose. Guess I'll tear into it better tonite.
 
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