I bought my wife a 2005 4Runner Sport Edition with a 4.7L V8 in it. Not a bad combo for that little SUV.

Yet to do an oil change on it. But it takes 7.5Q of oil. Also the stock skid plate under the engine has to removed in order to get to the oil filter.

I have a F250 CC 4x4. My wife told me to get a new one because mine doesn't have the roof marker lights and she thinks it looks "cool". So I will hold out and wait for the rumored 6.4L twin turbo to appear. No rush here.
I'm happy with what I got.

Bob

 

Some Sds are made in Mexico but most are assembled in Kentucky
The gas motors and frames are built in Canada.
All my wiring harnesses are made in Mexico , the rest is all USA and Canada.
As I have stated in other posts, I don't care where a vehicle is made as long as the workers making it are paid a living wage.
Dodge builds more pickups in Mexico and they pay their workers less than a fruit picker in California makes when they are working under a legal work visa.
This is what all the Mexican Tour bus drivers tell people on their tours.

Toyotas built in the USA are fine with me and Honda has large factories in Eastern Canada. This is great and like it or not business is global so the manufacturers who build in Countries like USA and Canada get my vote and my business.

 

Well, if you're not an import fan, you like Toyota (of America) then, I presume?

The "imports" are sticking to cars and quite frankly are getting bored of it. They are dusting the whole house with the equally boring and unrealiable garbage the big 3 put out over the years. Shoot, as a hobby, I'd be moving on to trucks, too, if the same was happening with any automaker that I owned. Heck, why else would Toyota's sales be strong still? Maybe even Honda (of America, mind you) for that matter. They are making more of a variety of what people want. That's doesn't not hint at 13mpg SUVs, either. If Ford's only small car is the Focus and GM's joke is the Aveo.....I need not say more.

As for the rest, as Judge Judy would say..."HEARSAY!"

(Not that I'd necessarily take a jail cell grill Tacoma over my Ranger, but at least make a decent argument for your preference!)

 

I think dodge is playing up the American edge more then any other foreign company out there.

 

They are (whisper it) Hyundais.
We didn't get them here in Australia - but we do get the 2nd generation model (Terracan)

Gallopers are essentially an old platform (1990/91 model) Mitsubishi Pajero (which is called Montero in the US)

As for everyone driving Toyotas - Ford commercials aren't or weren't as widespread everywhere like Toyota's - part the reason why Ford/GM are now losing money.
They have finally realised if they are to have a future it won't be in the US domestic market.

 

I really don't have a problem with either compnay nor do I think one is really all that better than the other. I have owned 2 Toyota's, both cars and while good vehicles they where no better than there american counter parts as far as trips to the dealer.

Would I own one again, yes if the deal was right. But for the most part I always seem to get a better deal when buying a Ford or GM product. As far as trucks go though they are not even in the running. They wan't way to much for there product.

 

I don't see where this percieved 'superior import quality' comes from. It doesn't make any sense.
My buddy has an '80 Bronco. We beat the hell out of that thing, and it has not once left us stranded-ever. This thing has been so abused, but it's so tough, the Bronco just sucks it up, and carries on.
The '96 F-250 PSD has NEVER left me stranded, at all, and I've used this truck like a truck for almost 10 yrs. Anyone who's ever been in the bush with a truck understands the punishment the truck is put through. No rust at all.
The '05 f-150...it's new, but I haven't exactly been as nice to it as I should have. It's ready to go for more.

What I have noticed with the import vehicles is that they rust out a lot faster, and they have some of the most gawd-awful designs ever concieved from human beings.
Don't give me this crap about cars VS trucks either. Totally different in every way.

 

Gee, that's funny - my '05 F250 has a Kentucky sticker on the windshield...........

 

I've leased 4 four runners, 4 camrys, 4 Mercury Grand Marquis, and now own 1 EXPY and just bought but haven't taken delivery of a new F150.

I can't say one single bad thing about any of the Toyotas that we have had. Have driven them all between 39-48K miles before we have turned them in and only changed the oil. Zero defects in 8 vehicles. I like the styling and the build quality.

The 4 Mercury Grand Marquis did not hold up nearly as well with the same drivers and driven under the same conditions. I felt that Toyotas had a distinct edge in interior build quality over the Grand Marquis. Just little pieces of plastic always falling off and stuff like that.

I bought a new EXPY this summer because it was a superior value compared to the Sequoia and like the styling and options better for a whole lot less money than the Sequoia. It probably won't hold up as well as the Sequoia, but it cost a whole lot less for a whole lot more vehicle IMO.

We just bought 2 new F150s and the reason we bought them over the Tundras is because of the payload, new styling, and price. I think Ford is finally coming into the new century with a sharp looking interior.

 

As Wrenchtraveller has already corrected me, SOME are built in Mexico and most are built in Kentucky. I was referencing a documentarty a few years ago about Ford factories in Mexico (similar to the one on Wal-Mart by CNN) Things may have changed since then. I guess I'll just stress the fact that Toyota trucks/car are no longer imports. And most of the parts that they use are from US suppliers. It just makes me sick that US companies no longer care where they get there products (or about US factory worker jobs) as long as they save a penny. That much I do know. I work for John Deere, and more and more, parts are coming from China. Almost our entire machine shop has been dissolved because of China's cheap cast parts.

I'll stop the rant to get back on topic. Whenever Toyota comes out with a real 3/4 or 1 ton fullsize truck, I'll buy. Their quality standards mean something. The big 3 care about profit margin and shareholder value, then comes quality.

Stryder

 

Toyota's can last forever, no doubt about that. They are new in full size truck market, Titan will soon be better seller than Ram (for the first time Camry outsold Ram so far this year). Its amazing what they did in the past 20 years and its amazing that Lexus in less than 15 years becamed better luxury car than Mercedes, BMW and Audi. Their cars and SUVs have the best quality in the world. We have 1994 Camry V6 in the family with almost 130,000 miles and its running like brand new, no leaks or any problems with engine. We also have 2000 Mustang V6 in the family which already have oil leaks at 30,000 miles (I don't even wanna waste my time writing about junk called 1997 Intrepid 3.5L which is ready for junkyard at 90,000 miles). From now on, only sedan or SUVs I would buy is Toyota.
Anyway, Toyota took over car market. It may take some time, but I think Toyota will take over truck market too. Toyota is new on full size truck market and although they might not be the best looking, they do have highest quality. Ford just recalled 3.8 milion Trucks and SUVs and that comes from the company that's have best selling Trucks on the market. I had nothing but bad luck with domestic vehicles in the past ('92 Escort, '91 Taurus, '97 Intrepid, '00 Mustang), but I've decided to give them one more chance. So I bought '05 F-150 about 2 months ago. If F-150 fails like other cars did - I will never buy another domestic vehicle again.

 

The guy on top has a point i have the last bread of good long lasting F150's built in michigan 1995 i think one of the best powertrains for had (302). That saying thair are parts on my truck not made in usa all the plastic parts Are any other ford trucks still built in michigan? I rather buy a tacoma than a ranger and put a V8 I A RANGER ALREADY.




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Wow! Learn something new every day.......We had pajeros over there too, as well as Patrols. Never saw a terracan. As fas as Ford and GM reaching out to these "less developed" nations, are they capable of producing these low priced bare bones SUV's that you see all over the mideast? Because I can guarantee you, your average joe Iraqi or Jordinian could not come close to affording even a stripped-down escape.

 

Hold on. The Grand Marquis did not hold up? The Grand Marquis? The car that's essentially the same as the Crown Vic? The car that 90% of all police agencies abuse? The car that taxi companies pound into the ground? They didn't hold up?

How is the Toyota better with "pieces of plastic always falling off and stuff like that"?

 

I think he meant the Grand Marquis is having pieces fall off. When I was in Toronto last year, I noticed a lot of Camrys and Siennas being used as taxi vehicles and I'm going to bet they weren't chosen because they were cheap.