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Old Sep 1, 2005 | 10:50 AM
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Spark Plug Socket

IS the Craftsman Spark Plug Socket 6 pt., 3/8 in. drive flexible good?
how shorter is the socket compare to the Spark Plug Socket with an universal joint?
 
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Old Sep 1, 2005 | 01:45 PM
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It's good. I believe (not in front of me right now) that it's about 1/2" shorter. It is also stronger as the universal is not a locking style (ever had a spark plug socket stay in one of those deep recesses on today's foreign cars?). The spark plug I wish Sears carried, is an extended one. They are made by, Snap~on, Matco, Mac, S&K, and Great Neck (longer than the others) and work on vans and trucks really well.
 
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Old Sep 1, 2005 | 04:12 PM
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is Great Neck still good? i looked at some Great Neck sockets and wreches, they look like crap!
 
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Old Sep 2, 2005 | 10:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Mr.Ford 351W
is Great Neck still good? i looked at some Great Neck sockets and wreches, they look like crap!

IMHO, these sockets are the only semi decent thing I've seen, but in an emergency I found some old stock. Personally, the only ones I have seen were Mac and Snap~On and the Mac was the better design.(you could still use it with a wrench)
 
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Old Sep 8, 2005 | 08:57 PM
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Ok! Thanks
 
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Old Sep 9, 2005 | 02:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Mr.Ford 351W
is Great Neck still good? i looked at some Great Neck sockets and wreches, they look like crap!
in this case looks are NOT decieving
 
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Old Sep 10, 2005 | 12:00 AM
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Just make sure that your plug socket has a rubber bushing inside to hold on to the plug, and protect it during install or even removeal if you are to reuse it.... It is a lot easyer to crosstread a plug if you are missing the rubber bushing, it helps line up the plug with the socket.

AND REMEMBER NEVER USE A WENCH TO START A PLUG, just start with your fingers and then ad the wench to tighen to the proper spec.... I do use the socket and a extention to start spark plugs, but the wench is sitting on the table untill it is time to tighten them up and replace the wires.... I have to make sure that I do not forget the wench on the extention from one plug to the next.

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Old Sep 10, 2005 | 12:41 AM
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they work good to loosen up the head bolts when you're taking a head off...because they are long enough to reach down past the rocker arms etc. but not too meaty to fit in between them. tightening head bolts is another story. just my .02
 
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Old Sep 10, 2005 | 12:25 PM
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head bolts! ?
 
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Old Sep 10, 2005 | 01:57 PM
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Just make sure that your plug socket has a rubber bushing inside to hold on to the plug, and protect it during install or even removeal if you are to reuse it.... It is a lot easyer to crosstread a plug if you are missing the rubber bushing, it helps line up the plug with the socket.


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Just the opposite in most cases! After working in a garage for three years (and my own vehicles for 19), I have multiple plugs. MOST of them I have removed the rubber, because it is nothing but trouble! HERE is how all the mechanics I have known, start spark plugs. Use a piece of hose (normally a piece of a broken air line, but can be a vaccum hose). It acts as an extension of your finger tips so you can feel it threading, and is flexible enough to get into tight spots, and is easily removable! On too many vehicles, when I started with the rubber plug, you couldn't get the socket back off of the plug. You NEVER start a spark plug with a socket!
 
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Old Sep 10, 2005 | 02:14 PM
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yeah, but let me repeat the important part: only use it to REMOVE head bolts because a spark plug socket aint strong enough to work right with a 1/2 drive torquewrench, to torque them down. it will absorb some of the torque from the wrench instead of applying the full amount that the wrench is set for.

so after all your plug holes are cross threaded from starting your plugs from a wrench, all you need is a 3/8 socket, a 1/2-9/16 in combo wrench and a spark plug socket to remove the heads for re-tapping: lmao.
 
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Old Sep 10, 2005 | 02:16 PM
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I should clarify on one point! The reason I like the Mac one with the head that you can use a WRENCH on as well as a Socket, is due to removal in tight spaces! If you look at a normal spark plug socket, you'll see it has a back that you can put a socket on, to extend it. The Snap~on deep well is straight, and I was unsure about the S&K's because no one carried them locally. This was the only time I prefered Mac over Snap that wasn't due to the service of the driver!

If you go here (the drawings dimensions aren't right) you could see the difference between the two!
http://buy1.snapon.com/catalog/item....re&dir=catalog
 
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Old Sep 10, 2005 | 07:40 PM
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Well I guess I have been doing it all wrong for the last 20 years or so....

I am still using the same old Snap-On plug sockets for the last 20 years and I have more of a problem getting the socket off of the 20 year old extension than the plug itself. I have never cross-treaded a plug during an install but, I have removed the treads during a removal. (You just have to love the early aluminum heads) The trick is to not hurry during this process and pay attention to what the tool is telling you about the starting of the treads and to clean the area around the plug before you remove the old one. If you take the proper prep time life will be better all around. For that reason I will never work or have work done FLAT RATE, It just is asking for a problem that I am not willing to pay for…..

I will have to try the hose trick next time I need to get in to a tight area or a hemi style head it should work well I would think….

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Old Sep 10, 2005 | 07:48 PM
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Oh, how much porcelain have you gone though with out the rubber??? I don’t mind breaking an old plug, but a new one is a whole different story. And I am not willing to pay for that either.

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Old Sep 10, 2005 | 07:52 PM
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If you hold the headof the ratchet, there is no reason the plug should break. None of my sockets have the rubber in them anymore. I use locking extensions, so that's not the problem. Usually, they are removed and discarded when they come off with the plug.
 
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