programer and a chip
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Yeah, I'm pretty sure you can run a tuner with another chip. I've read a thread before talking about how the tuner controls one thing about the fuel injection and the chip controls a totally different aspect. I know for a fact though, that each won't make as much power as they do alone. For example, you don't take the Predator 100 hp setting and add the chip's 100 hp and get a total combined power of 200 hp. Hopefully, someone who knows a lot about this stuff will chime in.
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No, you cannot run a chip and a programmer. The chip will over-write any programming in the PCM. You can stack fueling boxes like the Edge EZ with a chip or programmer, but if a chip is installed, it is what is controlling the PCM.
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The six gun I think is a chip. A fuel box is usally mounted under the hood, connected to the IPS. The 10K mod is this type. A chip reprograms the PCM as does the tuners and only one can be used at a time.
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It seems any programmer is stackable with the Six Gun though. https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/a...ing%20Question
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Originally Posted by edub32
It seems any programmer is stackable with the Six Gun though. https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/a...ing%20Question
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Originally Posted by ltfox
The six gun I think is a chip. A fuel box is usally mounted under the hood, connected to the IPS. The 10K mod is this type. A chip reprograms the PCM as does the tuners and only one can be used at a time.
Originally Posted by Cookie88
Right. The six gun is a fuel/timing box that makes it's adjustments externally of the PCM. It can be stacked with a chip or tuner.
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Maybe I'm using the wrong terminology. By tuner, I'm talking about the handheld programmers like the SCMT, Predator, PPIII, Evoloution, etc. These devices can not be used in conjunction with a chip.
Things like the six-gun, Edge E-Z, or any other variation of any resistor mod can be used with either a handheld programmer or a chip.
Things like the six-gun, Edge E-Z, or any other variation of any resistor mod can be used with either a handheld programmer or a chip.
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I've got a dumn "newbie" question....
What is the best solution for a daily driver, who tows a huge amount of weight (only 10x a year) and wants to stay as close to warrantiable as possible?? Maybe something I can remove for warranty work? Something that won't send off my "check engine" lights all the time... etc
...thanks, and sorry for the thread jack. But it seems you all know what's up!
What is the best solution for a daily driver, who tows a huge amount of weight (only 10x a year) and wants to stay as close to warrantiable as possible?? Maybe something I can remove for warranty work? Something that won't send off my "check engine" lights all the time... etc
...thanks, and sorry for the thread jack. But it seems you all know what's up!
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Originally Posted by JohnnyAirtime
I've got a dumn "newbie" question....
What is the best solution for a daily driver, who tows a huge amount of weight (only 10x a year) and wants to stay as close to warrantiable as possible?? Maybe something I can remove for warranty work? Something that won't send off my "check engine" lights all the time... etc
...thanks, and sorry for the thread jack. But it seems you all know what's up!
What is the best solution for a daily driver, who tows a huge amount of weight (only 10x a year) and wants to stay as close to warrantiable as possible?? Maybe something I can remove for warranty work? Something that won't send off my "check engine" lights all the time... etc
...thanks, and sorry for the thread jack. But it seems you all know what's up!
As far as the best solution for your rig....I'd go with a hand held programmer like the Diablo Predator on the tow (lowest) setting. Once the performance tune is set back to stock it leaves no traces.