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I'm thinking about becoming a UPS package driver/deliverer, in the brown uniform and all. I was wondering if anyone here is a UPS driver or knows someone who is, and has any comments or thoughts on the job. From what I understand the benefits are terrific and they pay is good, too. Also, is it possible to start off working as a package driver/deliverer, or do they make you start off in the warehouse tossing packages, first?
I knew a bunch of folks who work for "Brown." You have to work your way up to driving. It's one of the best positions in the company so you have to earn it. Of course that may have changed but that's the way it was up til last year that I know of.
I've known a few UPS drivers when I worked shipping and receiving at the dealership I used to work at.
UPS drives their workers into the ground over here.
Every so often the drivers have a manager go with them on their routes and time them. The manager just stands there with pen and electronic clipboard and jots down notes.
Most of the drivers I know, left to work at different delivery companies and were glad they did.
Now, that's just second hand info and is the UPS way of life here in S.F.
I thought that they would sometimes have openings for drivers. Stop into the big UPS building, there's normally an HR department separate that will be ablw to tell you what positions they're hiring for and you can apply in there. I used to load for UPS, and they never mentioned anything about the possibility of moving up to driver. I understand the whole 'been in the company longer', but being a un/loader really has nothing to do with whether or not you could be a good driver...I think you can just go in and drive.
In my area i see help wanted ads for ups and fedex drivers all the time,the only requirment is that your 21. I dont think you have to work your way up the ladder
Fedex wants contract drivers...you furnish your own vehicle.
My oldest brother started with UPS way back in the late 70s after being in management with Sears and Radio Shack. He started out as a driver, lost 30 pounds in the process. Eat and run he said. He was rear-ended in Memphis but was held accountable for the accident for some reason. He moved up to a management position and last I heard, he was a time engineer; riding with drivers and timing them all day long.
He retires from them in 2 more years and said he was so glad to get off the package trucks. One more thing, when he started, he went to Nasville TN for training and said it was almost like being in boot camp in the Army.
Edit: I also worked with a guy that became a UPS driver only to be let go because he didn't "hustle" enough.
FedEx Ground drivers are contractors or work for contractors.
FedEx Express are company drivers. 21 and a clean driving record can get you started, usually part time. Full time will come in about 6 to 12 months depending on how well you do.
As for being held accountable for a rear-ender, the test is "did you do everything you could to avoid the accident?" So, if you stopped short or didn't signal early or tap the brakes long before you stopped, or if you didn't know the guy was back there, you're held accountable.
As for UPS, as the CEO of FedEx once said, they are "a fine company and a worthy competitor."
Also note UPS is Teamster, FedEx is mostly non-union outside of the pilots. UPS pays more but has a tighter environment productivity and otherwise.
If you want to be a driver you better count on being down to 6-8% body fat at the most because you will have to hustle. As someone mentioned, they time how fast you walk with a stop watch. My cousin lost 30 pounds in one year and he "thought" he was fit. Count on being a part time driver for a while unless you are exceptional. The good news is, you make a killing at XMAS time with the overtime. Its union and the last time I check full time drivers earned $25 an hour.
As for being held accountable for a rear-ender, the test is "did you do everything you could to avoid the accident?" So, if you stopped short or didn't signal early or tap the brakes long before you stopped, or if you didn't know the guy was back there, you're held accountable.
That doesn't make sense to me because if someone is following too close, how can you signal that you have to stop suddenly in stop and go traffice like my brother was in?
By the same reasoning, I could be held liable in an accident if I was rear ended because I didn't warn the driver behind me that I was going to stop.
Anyway....I prefer UPS over Fedex anyday and good luck on becoming a UPS driver.
Thanks for the advice from everyone, so far. I'm not concerned about being in good shape - I played competitive soccer from age 5 up until the end of high school.
One problem I encountered from Mudder's post, and later found after some research on the internet.... you have to be 21.... I'm turning 19 in a month. I guess I'd have to work doing other things there until I turn 21, or just wait until I'm 21 to work for UPS at all, and keep doing what I'm doing for now.
If anyone else has experiences to share, please do. The more I know about it, the better.
we get UPS shipments daily at work, and we got to know the driver prety well, he was telling us how the inspector was watching him deliver packages, and was counting the steps it took to get from the truck to the house.. COUNTING STEPS!!!
besides the strictness, it seems like a good job