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Old Aug 17, 2005 | 04:26 PM
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4x4 not working

I know this post may need to be in the super duty but I am a V-10 owner and have become very partial to you guys and you have helped me with quite a few things so Im shure this will be no problem.

I went fishing the other day and when I put my truck in 4wheel to get back up the boat ramp my A/C started blowing out the defrost and no 4wheel I know that the 4wheel is ingaged by a vaccume line and that is more than likely my problem, but before I tear into it I wanted to know if any one has had this problem and where the line is routed. I diddnt hear a leak under the dash so I assume that the proble is under the truck?

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JT
 
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Old Aug 17, 2005 | 05:04 PM
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If it's like my '01:

There's a vacuum resevoir on the passenger-side wheel well, under the hood. Right next to it (follow the vacuum line - red, I think) is the solenoid to control the vacuum pulse.

There is only a 20 second pulse to lock the front hubs, and a 5 second to unlock, there is no constant vacuum applied to the hubs. You can manually lock the hubs (if they move anymore) to get you out of a situation like this.

Did the a/c come back on about 20 seconds after you first turned the **** to 4x4? If so, the vacuum leak is AFTER (or IN) the vacuum solenoid.

Follow the black line from the solenoid, down the passenger side of the engine compartment, and it goes underneath to both sides.

I'd check the line right at the steering knuckle first - just turn the wheel all the way out, and you can see it plain as day - to me, when it breaks, that looks like the place it would happen.

If it's not an obvious vacuum line problem, it's possible for the vacuum solenoid to leak. You'd have to test it with a vacuum guage and a hand vacuum pump to see if it's the solenoid. With the solenoid off (not trying to lock the hubs), use a hand vacuum pump with a guage on it, on the supply side of the solenoid, and build a vacuuum, like 20-25 inches. BLOCK OFF the output side of the solenoid (the side going to the hubs). Energize the solenoid and see if the vacuum bleeds off. If it does, the solenoid is leaking internally.

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Old Aug 17, 2005 | 05:12 PM
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Originally Posted by krewat
If it's like my '01:

There's a vacuum resevoir on the passenger-side wheel well, under the hood. Right next to it (follow the vacuum line - red, I think) is the solenoid to control the vacuum pulse.

There is only a 20 second pulse to lock the front hubs, and a 5 second to unlock, there is no constant vacuum applied to the hubs. You can manually lock the hubs (if they move anymore) to get you out of a situation like this.

Did the a/c come back on about 20 seconds after you first turned the **** to 4x4? If so, the vacuum leak is AFTER (or IN) the vacuum solenoid.

Follow the black line from the solenoid, down the passenger side of the engine compartment, and it goes underneath to both sides.

I'd check the line right at the steering knuckle first - just turn the wheel all the way out, and you can see it plain as day - to me, when it breaks, that looks like the place it would happen.

If it's not an obvious vacuum line problem, it's possible for the vacuum solenoid to leak. You'd have to test it with a vacuum guage and a hand vacuum pump to see if it's the solenoid. With the solenoid off (not trying to lock the hubs), use a hand vacuum pump with a guage on it, on the supply side of the solenoid, and build a vacuuum, like 20-25 inches. BLOCK OFF the output side of the solenoid (the side going to the hubs). Energize the solenoid and see if the vacuum bleeds off. If it does, the solenoid is leaking internally.

art k.
As usual, krewat, great post

(But they won't allow me to give you anymore browny points... )
 
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Old Aug 17, 2005 | 05:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Big Orn
As usual, krewat, great post

(But they won't allow me to give you anymore browny points... )
I just now locked in my Warn hubs, turned the **** to 4x4 low and tried to break the tires loose in my backyard - not...

Imagine having all this power, and trying to actually show off on hard-pack dirt or some other good-traction surface... without bald tires, it's almost impossible... The trick is, pulling out some other poor slob is a lot more fun with so much traction...

I'm going Upstate (NY) Labor day, hopefully I can throw aroiund some mud (clay) (with my stock-sized 265/75r16 Cooper Discoverer AT's .. tee hee)...
 
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Old Aug 17, 2005 | 05:24 PM
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Originally Posted by krewat
I just now locked in my Warn hubs, turned the **** to 4x4 low and tried to break the tires loose in my backyard - not...

Imagine having all this power, and trying to actually show off on hard-pack dirt or some other good-traction surface... without bald tires, it's almost impossible... The trick is, pulling out some other poor slob is a lot more fun with so much traction...

I'm going Upstate (NY) Labor day, hopefully I can throw aroiund some mud (clay) (with my stock-sized 265/75r16 Cooper Discoverer AT's .. tee hee)...
I smoked all six tires a couple of weeks ago - but I was hooked to farm tractor that had went into the ditch on a paved road. Talking about turning heads - those huge mudgrips howling, white smoke boiling from the front and back...and my wife trying to knock the stuffing outa my right shoulder...
 
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Old Aug 18, 2005 | 08:42 AM
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Great Ill do a little ckecking now that I have a starting point. Thank you I guess I shold have gave you the make and model.... 2002 F-250 CC 4X4 SD V-10 SB 3.73s. Ill let you know what I come up with

Take care
JT
 
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Old Aug 18, 2005 | 08:45 PM
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Originally Posted by krewat
I'm going Upstate (NY) Labor day...
Art, where in Upstate NY are you going to be?
 
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Old Aug 18, 2005 | 09:10 PM
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Art, where in Upstate NY are you going to be?
Little town called Conesville. Platteskill is near it, big resevoir area for NYC. Go through Durham to get there
 
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Art - I know where you will be. Not close enough to me. I thought that if you were near by we could get together. Have a good time. Nice area there. Sorry jasontrucks76 for hijacking your thread. Now back to your regularly scheduled programming......
 
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Old Aug 19, 2005 | 06:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Ronin007
Art - I know where you will be. Not close enough to me. I thought that if you were near by we could get together. Have a good time. Nice area there. Sorry jasontrucks76 for hijacking your thread. Now back to your regularly scheduled programming......
I'd have a hard time justifying it to the wife anyway
 
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Old Aug 19, 2005 | 07:44 PM
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I'd have a hard time justifying it to the wife anyway
Yeah I hear you on that one. I just got done putting a leveling kit on the SD. I had to replace all my ball joints and figured I should do the leveling kit at the same time being that I would have most of the front end apart for the ball joint job. Made sense to her so she let me do it. I just got the truck back from my buddy's shop and now she hates the gap between the tires and wheel wells. I guess that means larger tires now. Boy am I bumming now.
 
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