4X4 whats the difference between...
4X4 whats the difference between...
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Push button also normally has some sort of auto locking hubs along with the electric motor that engages the transfer case verses manual where you move a lever to engage. Also push button 4x4 does not come with a choice for neutral where as it's there with manual.
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Pushbutton 4 wheel drive has the advantage of freeing up floorspace of your truck.
Lever on the floor has the advantage of "almost" never failing, the "almost" is if you somehow tweak the linkages.
If you have the choice, and taking up a lil floorspace isn't a problem I would definately opt for the lever. I have had pushbutton 4 wheel drive fail more than once, when it fails you aren't going anywhere if you are already stuck.
So +1 for the Lever!
Lever on the floor has the advantage of "almost" never failing, the "almost" is if you somehow tweak the linkages.
If you have the choice, and taking up a lil floorspace isn't a problem I would definately opt for the lever. I have had pushbutton 4 wheel drive fail more than once, when it fails you aren't going anywhere if you are already stuck.
So +1 for the Lever!
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Stick-shift Transfer Case and Lockout Hub's are probably 95% reliable overall (99.9% Effective on Stock/mostly stock rigs, and 90% effective on other rigs with people who get silly with the skinny pedal. - ie pro, ivan, etc)
I'd take the manual action over auto any day. Just don't trust electrical stuff for that sort of thing. Plus auto hubs can come unlocked in the mud.
I'd take the manual action over auto any day. Just don't trust electrical stuff for that sort of thing. Plus auto hubs can come unlocked in the mud.
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I want more information on this topic if anyone can provide it, with real proofs if you have them please (i own a Push-button 93´ Bronco)
i owned a 93 f250 with push button and a 95 bronco with push button and both vehicles failed to engage (or lack thereof) 4 wheel drive due to the motors going bad. i have a 96 F350 with lever shift and OMG it is SO much better. i know\ for a FACT that i can engage 4x4.
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I was aware by the posts before mine that push... was a disadvantage, but what you told me was pretty much what i asked for. Now, replacing my hubs with manual locking hubs will be of any help? (i know i´ll still have an electric t-case).
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Yes they would be more reliable. With autolocking hubs there are more parts to break. Also, if they are engaged and you are driving forward and need to backup they will automatically disengage then take up to 10 feet to re-engage when backing up. With manuals, they would always be locked until you "freed" them.
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kool, glad to help.
umm, well not really. i mean yes it would be a good upgrade (auto hubs to manuals) b/c auto hubs aren't very reliable. really theres only 3 ways i know of to switch from push button to lever style... would be to buy another truck or swap transfer cases. can't really get away from it. i am sure there is a way to pull the eletric motor and all that crap off and build your own shifter and linakge assembly.
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umm, well not really. i mean yes it would be a good upgrade (auto hubs to manuals) b/c auto hubs aren't very reliable. really theres only 3 ways i know of to switch from push button to lever style... would be to buy another truck or swap transfer cases. can't really get away from it. i am sure there is a way to pull the eletric motor and all that crap off and build your own shifter and linakge assembly.
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hopefully i dont offend anyone, but i think auto hubs and push button lockouts are junk. but there are advantages IE you dont have to get out to lock it in, which doesnt bother me, i know im locked in most of the time, unless theres water in a hub and its below 32F then you may not lock in too well. And doenst auto hubs still turn over the axle when going down the road, if it does wouldnt that lead to premature wear on the u joints and worse gas milage, but you dont have to get out to lock it in. Only problem ive found with a hand 4x4 is if that thing rusts have fun. Now time to wait for day light so i can start on the other side of my truck *replacing balljoints and steering stuff as soon as possible now that i got a bigger hammer it should go a little better*