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Old Aug 18, 2005 | 03:24 PM
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Originally Posted by CrimsnTide
Jeff,

Thanks for the write-up... Just in time too. I should be getting my coolant filter within the next couple of days, and with what everyone says (your write-up included) I can schedule my installation for a "after work" project... Thanks again...
Your welcome and good luck.

Are you installing only or flushing then installing?

Which set-up did you buy?

Have coolant on hand and use distilled water if just installing.

Good luck and way to go.

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Old Aug 18, 2005 | 03:37 PM
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Mine will be delivered next Monday, so it'll be a project for one of the following nights. I won't be flushing as my truck will only be a week old tomorrow. How messy should I expect it to be since I am not flushing, and how much coolant (approximately) will I need to add back?

Edit: I bought the dieselsite set with the valves.
 

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Old Aug 18, 2005 | 05:00 PM
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I'm in the same boat as opposable. as of now, I've only had my truck 10 days, so I don't think I'll be flushing... I got mine from Dieselsite and I too ordered the one with the valves....

We'll see...
 
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Old Aug 18, 2005 | 06:40 PM
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Do the install with the truck cold.

Open degas bottle (cap) to relieve any pressure (if any).

Connect all pieces of the filter, valves and connections first.

Install braket to radiator bolts.

Install filter assembly onto braket.

Install return line into the small hose from radiator to bottle (no fluid will leak and is easily done).

Where you may get fluid loss is when cutting the heater line behind the oil fill tube (small area and hard to get large hands in there to make a straight cut/splice. Install "tee" and clamps.

Hook up to filter assembly (make sure to use teflon tape on all threaded connections.

Remember to coat the rubber gasket of the Baldwin filter with fresh oil (just like an oil filter) - The dieselsite instructions do not mention this.

Depending on fluid loss, you will need distilled water and maybe some coolant. The Ford Premium Gold coolant is $10.00/gallon. I would get some before hand so you can add back the proper 50/50mixture of your factory fill.

You will need the coolant later on anyway when doing the filter change, as you will loose a pint or less each time you change filters (FYI). The coolant will not go bad.

Being new, I am sure there is a bunch of sand and sediment from when the motor was casted. I would keep an eye on your degas bottle and change filters in 2 - 3 months to see what you are collecting.

Good luck,

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Old Aug 18, 2005 | 10:54 PM
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Jeff, do they offer filters that don't contain the SCA?

Hmm...2500 posts
 
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Old Aug 18, 2005 | 11:03 PM
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So Jeff you use the Ford coolant, why not the Evens NPG+, beside cost it sound great.
 
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Old Aug 19, 2005 | 07:38 AM
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Originally Posted by PSD 60L Fx4
Jeff, do they offer filters that don't contain the SCA?

Hmm...2500 posts
Yes they do.

SCA charged for 7.3L PSD motors and non-charged for 6.0L PSD motors.

As we all know, you can use non-charged on both motors and monitor and add SCA's as needed.

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Old Aug 19, 2005 | 07:43 AM
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Originally Posted by satcom40
So Jeff you use the Ford coolant, why not the Evens NPG+, beside cost it sound great.
Have never used Evans NPG coolant and do not know the pros or cons....

My truck is running well and since the motor is warranted for 100,000 miles I will use the Ford Motorcraft Premium Gold Coolant as it works, is well made and would be covered if a cooling system, water pump or type failure was to ocurr. The Motorcraft Prem. Gold Coolant was $10.00/gallon at my Ford dealer, so I bought 4 gallons (needed 3-1/2 for complete flush)... and $40.00 was OK with me (not sure is Evans is more or less, but I will guess more!!)

I will change my coolant filter at 10,000 miles just to see and will flush my cooling system at 50,000 miles (again) as I believe that this is long enough and I received my monies worth spending $55.00 on a flush ($40 for coolant and $15.00 on 15 gallons of distilled water).

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Old Aug 19, 2005 | 01:08 PM
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Thanks for the input. The Evens cost 28.50 a gallon and use no water has a higher boiling point 370 F and no pressure and antifrezz is down to -70 F this higher temp cause the motor to run better, better fuel miles, and less wear and tear on parts.
I don't know if the spec meet Fords. but it does sound good when you read it.
Thanks for the input. John
 
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Old Aug 19, 2005 | 02:00 PM
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Originally Posted by satcom40
Thanks for the input. The Evens cost 28.50 a gallon and use no water has a higher boiling point 370 F and no pressure and antifrezz is down to -70 F this higher temp cause the motor to run better, better fuel miles, and less wear and tear on parts.
I don't know if the spec meet Fords. but it does sound good when you read it.
Thanks for the input. John
I have always been a believer that if it was that good, why not use it as OEM and have Ford, GM and Dodge reccomend it?

I am sure it is better and meets certain operational benefits, but does one NEED it? Seems to me that Ford specs out the coolant (they could have used a lessor technology coolant than the Premium Gold, but they didn't... wonder why. With the various plastics and metals used... not using something that meets their specs could or will invite problems... at some point down the road.

I am not willing to risk it... but if others are... good luck to them.

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Old Aug 19, 2005 | 03:13 PM
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I will say this for it...I have used it for about a month and a half, and to this point it has been a SUPERB product; The overheating and overpressurization of the coolant system is GONE. If I were to buy a new truck right now, the Evans coolant would go in it even before a programmer It will be going in my 94 Bronco as soon as UPS delivers it.

I am about to order the coolant filter for it, too...at 30 bucks a gallon to the door I would like to preserve it as long as possible

As a side note, the manufacturer only knows best when it the decision will be on the side of profit. Just because it isn't used as OEM doesn't mean it is inferior (there are lots of products out there that are superior to OEM standards). Just because Ford didn't put a coolant filter on the truck doesn't mean that there shouldn't be one, and the same thing applies with many other things on the market.
Ford or any other manufacturer is going to choose the equipment that will get the job done sufficiently, the cheapest. It doesn't mean that it is the most efficient or longest lasting equipment, its just what they chose to use.
 

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Old Aug 19, 2005 | 04:00 PM
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Hey PSD, been to the track lately. So you using Evens in the truck at the track or around town. I was going to buy the filter and saw the Evens coolant and just had to ask about it here. The ONE and ONLY place. Well I've going to have too think about this I do like the idea of no water. Thanks
 
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Old Aug 19, 2005 | 04:12 PM
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Originally Posted by PSD 60L Fx4
It will be going in my 94 Bronco as soon as UPS delivers it.
Wow.... UPS delivers '94 Bronco's????

(ha, ha)

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Old Aug 19, 2005 | 05:03 PM
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That's funny. I had to get my Bronco from the dealer.

Jeff, I ordered my coolant filter today and printed your instructions. Thanks for taking the time to post all that.

Russ
 
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Old Aug 19, 2005 | 05:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Kepler4
That's funny. I had to get my Bronco from the dealer.

Jeff, I ordered my coolant filter today and printed your instructions. Thanks for taking the time to post all that.

Russ
Will be interesting to see how the Bronco fits inside those little brown trucks??

When your filter arrives, look at my instructions and those that come with the filter... it will make better sense. Took me a few readings and few "look twice, cut once" issues when installing... but when it was done... it worked!!!

Good luck,

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