400 Trouble
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400 Trouble
I went to start my 78 Bronco and it wouldn't. I would here the starter try to turn over the engine, but the battery just didn't seem to have anough juice. So I tryed to jump it, and it killed the battery on my 77 F-100 and it did the same thing just didn't sound like it wouldn't turn over.
Then I let it sit a little while and tryed to start it and as long as I held the key to the start position it sounded like it started, but let go of the key it died.
I tryed starting it latter and it fired up right away, I tryed to give it some gas, and it started to shake and it wouldn't go over 2,000 RPM no matter how much gas was given. I put it in reverse and it started to shake again I put it in drive and it shook and died out.
Please let me know what might be the problem, I don't know what to think,a ground discarges the battery, water in the engine, an it acts like a engine mount is broken.
What's wrong here, I ran like a champ yesterday, I'm lost.
Then I let it sit a little while and tryed to start it and as long as I held the key to the start position it sounded like it started, but let go of the key it died.
I tryed starting it latter and it fired up right away, I tryed to give it some gas, and it started to shake and it wouldn't go over 2,000 RPM no matter how much gas was given. I put it in reverse and it started to shake again I put it in drive and it shook and died out.
Please let me know what might be the problem, I don't know what to think,a ground discarges the battery, water in the engine, an it acts like a engine mount is broken.
What's wrong here, I ran like a champ yesterday, I'm lost.
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Did the engine turn, but just sounded like it was really straining to turn over? If so, I could be way wrong here, but I'll take a guess and say something jumped/broke in your timing. Whether it is the timing chain, or distributor related (internal or even the hold down clamp is loose)....that is my GUESS. I only say this because I've read where really advanced timing can cause a strain on the starter. Also, I've seen the timing off on my Dad's BII and it would crank fast and slow, the timing was way, way off. There are alot more experienced guys on here, they'll chime in before too long 
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What do you mean when you say "a ground discharges the battery"?
Did you find "water in the engine"?
Check the water in the battery, if it is not a sealed battery, then clean the terminals. Check the battery voltage, then charge it overnight if possible, then check the battery voltage again. After that try to start it again, if it is still slow turning over check the battery cable conections to ground, to the solenoid and to the starter.
Low voltage at the starter will make the started sluggish and also make it draw more current. Excess resistance in the battery cables and/or connections will reduce the voltage at the starter.
Did you find "water in the engine"?
Check the water in the battery, if it is not a sealed battery, then clean the terminals. Check the battery voltage, then charge it overnight if possible, then check the battery voltage again. After that try to start it again, if it is still slow turning over check the battery cable conections to ground, to the solenoid and to the starter.
Low voltage at the starter will make the started sluggish and also make it draw more current. Excess resistance in the battery cables and/or connections will reduce the voltage at the starter.
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Then I let it sit a little while and tryed to start it and as long as I held the key to the start position it sounded like it started, but let go of the key it died.
my 74 did this when i put my 302 in it come 2 find out white wire off the brain box had 2 be cut off and no power going 2 the white wire red wire has to have fire when key is one just my 2 cents. but what do i know iam just a lost coonass 1 bad 71
my 74 did this when i put my 302 in it come 2 find out white wire off the brain box had 2 be cut off and no power going 2 the white wire red wire has to have fire when key is one just my 2 cents. but what do i know iam just a lost coonass 1 bad 71
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Originally Posted by danlee
What do you mean when you say "a ground discharges the battery"?
Did you find "water in the engine"?
Did you find "water in the engine"?
I sprayed down some of the engine area, and it might of gotton some water in the disributer or in the engine.
I started it earlyer, and as long as I didn't give it gas or put it in gear it was fine. In gear or given gas become real rough running and it dies out.If that helps any.
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When I sprayed it down it was cool, when I tried to start it, it was cool.
I'm going check out the distributar.
I'm going check out the distributar.
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If your plug wires are bad, or the cap or coil is cracked, water could make it run rough or not at all. How old are your plug wires, and your coil wire?
Water should not discharge the battery, but misfiring could make it hard to start.
Water should not discharge the battery, but misfiring could make it hard to start.
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I think I'm going to replace my spark plugs and wires, because they really look like they could use it.
I didn't think water messed up the battery, but I was just wondering why it killed my truck battery when I tryed to jump it.
I'll check things out some more, but any more sugestions or comments are very welcome.
I didn't think water messed up the battery, but I was just wondering why it killed my truck battery when I tryed to jump it.
I'll check things out some more, but any more sugestions or comments are very welcome.
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I changed the spark plugs and wires, It didn't help any. I had it running(crappy), and no I can't start it. I took off the air cleaner and the carb had some water on it, so I know some what got in the engine. Is there anything else I could do to try and fix this?
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Have you taken off the distributor cap and checked for water condensation. this is a common occurence when washing an engine. it will make it run like ***. firing wrong cylinders in just about any order.