Notices

Dead Miss (Updated)

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Aug 3, 2005 | 06:16 PM
  #1  
exploranger's Avatar
exploranger
Thread Starter
|
Freshman User
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 27
Likes: 0
Dead miss

Hello to all. This is a newbie post, so please bear with me. I have a '99 Ranger 4x4 3.0 flex fuel 72000 miles with a dead miss. I have been running moonshine in it for about 2 months and it has run perfect up til now. Once it started to miss, I got it to a garage and got it hooked up to a diagnostic computer. It shows a dead miss on cyl 4. checked spark, (good) and compression,(good)According to the mechanic it had to be the injector. Took three days to get one through the local NAPA, put it on and all back together, and it still shows a miss on cyl 4. Went through sequence again and have a request for the parts store to get another injector(may take quite some time). In the meantime, is there any way to test for an adequate signal to the injector while the plenum is in place, or to check if it is getting it's signal before putting the plenum back on? Thanks in advance to all who take time to read and/or respond. Ed


99 Ranger
96 Explorer
94 Explorer
90 Jeep Cherokee (kids these days)
 
Reply
Old Aug 3, 2005 | 07:15 PM
  #2  
Rockledge's Avatar
Rockledge
Post Fiend
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 9,748
Likes: 16
From: Connecticut
Welcome to FTE!

First, what did the #4 spark plug look like? Any clues?

The fuel injectors are always "live" with 12V running to them. They are activated when the PCM provides ground to the circuit. The Red (R) wire is the 12V, the other wire is ground to the PCM.

One way to test the circuit is to jump the pins on the injector harness connector with a 12v test lamp (harness disconnected). It should blink while the engine is cranking.

Here's a couple more electrical tests you can try:

CHECKING FUEL INJECTOR HARNESS RESISTANCE
- Disconnect fuel injector harness connector at the suspect fuel injector.
- Measure resistance of VPWR circuit between PCM harness connector pin and the fuel injector harness connector.
- Measure resistance of fuel injector circuit between PCM harness connector pin and the fuel injector harness connector.

If resistance is NOT less than 5.0 ohms, then there is an open in the circuit.

CHECKING FUEL INJECTOR HARNESS CIRCUIT FOR SHORT TO POWER AND GROUND
- Disconnect PCM.
- Suspect fuel injector disconnected.
- Measure resistance between fuel injector signal and VPWR circuits; and between fuel injector signal and PWR GND circuits at the PCM harness connector.

If resistance is NOTgreater than 10,000 ohms, then there is a short in the circuit.
 
Reply
Old Aug 3, 2005 | 09:57 PM
  #3  
exploranger's Avatar
exploranger
Thread Starter
|
Freshman User
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 27
Likes: 0
In reply to your question, the plugs on all cylinders were clean and white with just a little gray. They showed some age, but then I believe they were the originals. the one on the suspect cylinder showed a little more rounding of the electrode, but after 70 some thousand miles, nothing to cause me any alarm.
 
Reply
Old Aug 9, 2005 | 09:35 PM
  #4  
exploranger's Avatar
exploranger
Thread Starter
|
Freshman User
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 27
Likes: 0
Update to Dead Miss

In case anyone is interested, here is the solution to the dead miss post of a few days ago. It started with a miss in cyl. #4, in a 3.0 1999 Ranger flex fuel that had been running on E-85. Spark was good, and compression was good. took plenum off to get at fuel injectors 4, 5, and 6 as the others checked good with an ohm meter. #4 checked bad with the meter, so we ordered one from the local NAPA store. After three days, they decided that they could not get it at all. (back ordered with no delivery date) Same with Auto Zone. Finally got one after another three day wait at Car Quest. Put that one in and still had the same problem, so I went through all the test procedures again. Thanks to Rockledge, I had some more tests I could do to assure myself, and the owner of the garage that helped me locate the problem, and the parts store that we needed a replacement. After another two days we got the second injector from Car Quest, and installed it, same problem, so now we were really stumped. Even took the valve cover off to check for an out of place push rod, and took off the intake manifold to look for a bad gasket. All checked out okay. Both replacements checked good with an ohm meter. after some head and rear scratching, I switched the #4 (new) injector with the #1 (original) injector. Bingo! Miss moved to cyl 1. Got another injector from the salvage yard from another flex fuel Ranger, and now it purrs like a kitten. I have gotten new parts that were bad before, but never two in a row. Thanks again to Rockledge for all the knowledge and effort that he puts into this site. It must be a labor of love. You all have a great day!
Ed
 
Reply
Old Aug 10, 2005 | 12:16 PM
  #5  
Rockledge's Avatar
Rockledge
Post Fiend
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 9,748
Likes: 16
From: Connecticut
Thanks for the feedback.

There was a time when I would have been surprised that you got a bad injector out of the box, but no longer. IMO, the quality of aftermarket parts has been on the decline over the past several years...
 
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
Rwm8082
1987 - 1996 F150 & Larger F-Series Trucks
9
Feb 28, 2019 09:43 PM
Slobin3d
Small Block V8 (221, 260, 289, 5.0/302, 5.8/351W)
4
Aug 5, 2016 07:41 AM
jpennell1
2004 - 2008 F150
6
Jun 26, 2015 10:29 PM
ZenLobo
1997 - 2003 F150
5
May 20, 2013 11:00 AM
bluestreak1979
1983 - 2012 Ranger & B-Series
5
Aug 21, 2006 08:48 PM




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 09:38 PM.

story-0
10 Ugly Ford Trucks That We Still Kinda Love

Slideshow: 10 ugly Ford trucks that we still kinda love.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-06-03 09:51:16


VIEW MORE
story-1
10 Things Every Truck Owner NEEDS (2026 Edition)

Slideshow: the best gifts for dads & grads

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-06-03 15:43:58


VIEW MORE
story-2
Rezvani's Latest Post-Apocalyptic Monster Is a Ford F-150 Raptor Underneath

Slideshow: Called the Fortress, the 850-horsepower pickup combines Raptor underpinnings with military-inspired features, survival equipment, and a starting price of $285,000.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-06-03 11:38:36


VIEW MORE
story-3
Top 10 Most Expensive Ford Trucks Ever Sold on Bring a Trailer

Slideshow: 10 most expensive Ford trucks ever sold on Bring a Trailer.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-27 16:24:34


VIEW MORE
story-4
2027 Ford Super Duty Buyer's Guide (Every Model, Engine, & Package)

Here's everything that has changed for the latest model year.

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-27 16:17:28


VIEW MORE
story-5
Top 10 Ford Truck Tragedies

Slideshow: Top 10 Ford truck tragedies.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-18 19:34:33


VIEW MORE
story-6
AEV FXL Super Duty - the Super Duty Raptor Ford Doesn't Make

And it might be even better than that.

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-18 19:26:42


VIEW MORE
story-7
Lobo Vs Lobo: Proof the F-150 Lobo Should Be Even Lower!

Slideshow: Does lowering an F-150 Lobo RUIN the ride quality?

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-05-18 19:20:37


VIEW MORE
story-8
Ford's 2001 Explorer Sportsman Concept Looks For a New Home

Slideshow: Ford's bizarre fishing-themed Explorer concept has resurfaced after spending decades largely forgotten.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-12 18:07:46


VIEW MORE
story-9
10 Best Ford Truck Engines We Miss the Most!

Slideshow: The 10 best Ford truck engines we miss the most.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-12 13:09:47


VIEW MORE