Notices
Pre-Power Stroke Diesel (7.3L IDI & 6.9L) Diesel Topics Only

Stupid Diesel Engine question

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Aug 3, 2005 | 06:58 AM
  #1  
Diesel T's Avatar
Diesel T
Thread Starter
|
New User
Joined: Apr 2005
Posts: 10
Likes: 0
Stupid Diesel Engine question

I know this question probably doesnt have a answer that will work but i figured if anybody knew about this it would be one of you guys. Just wondering if there was any way to get any electric power out of a trucks diesel engine similiar to what a diesel generator would do. i need a generator to power a welder but dont wanna spend the money. if anybody knows how to do it or build a good generator to power a small arc welder the help is appreciated
Thanks
Tom C.

'89 250 7.3
 
Reply
Old Aug 3, 2005 | 08:10 AM
  #2  
holland501's Avatar
holland501
Elder User
Joined: Jan 2004
Posts: 561
Likes: 0
From: houston
There are a couple of kits on the market for small welding units that are powered by your alternator. I can't remember the companies. But if you check out the back pages in a couple of off-road mags I'm sure you will find them. Good luck.
 
Reply
Old Aug 3, 2005 | 09:55 AM
  #3  
fellro86's Avatar
fellro86
Hotshot
Joined: Feb 2004
Posts: 11,697
Likes: 3
From: Marengo, Iowa
I would say quite small, just don't have the amps to do a lot. Those generators are the only thing the diesel motors are running, and they can really crank out the amps. You may be able to rig something up by PTO would be the only thing I can say. I guess if you can figure out a way to mount it, you might be able to mount a generator head and have it be belt driven.
 
Reply
Old Aug 3, 2005 | 04:23 PM
  #4  
tjc transport's Avatar
tjc transport
i ain't rite
Joined: Mar 2005
Posts: 65,605
Likes: 5,629
From: Marlboro Mental Hospital.
Club FTE Gold Member
the best way would be PTO drive.
 
Reply
Old Aug 3, 2005 | 05:27 PM
  #5  
goodie350's Avatar
goodie350
Senior User
Joined: Dec 2004
Posts: 172
Likes: 0
I can't remember who made it but I saw a generator that was mounted on the motor of a v10 ford. It was a sweet set-up. Had a on off switch in the cab and they ran the plug to the bed of the truck. If it needed more juice it was hooked to the throttle and would rev the motor for more power as was needed. The guy using it had a good sized welder working off it and it worked just fine for that.
 
Reply
Old Aug 4, 2005 | 12:52 AM
  #6  
Diesel T's Avatar
Diesel T
Thread Starter
|
New User
Joined: Apr 2005
Posts: 10
Likes: 0
I'm sorry but im a newbie to a lot of diesel technology, what is the PTO and how would i make it work with a generator.
THanks, all the help is greatly appreciated
 
Reply
Old Aug 4, 2005 | 06:25 AM
  #7  
fellro86's Avatar
fellro86
Hotshot
Joined: Feb 2004
Posts: 11,697
Likes: 3
From: Marengo, Iowa
Sorry, habit. Power Take Off, attaches to the side of the transmission, runs off the idler gear inside the trans, does not require the trans to be in gear, but does require the clutch be engaged. You would then run a shaft back to the bed area to run the accessory of choice. The shaft would be similar in nature to a driveshaft, just doesn't operate at as high of speeds generally.
 
Reply
Old Aug 4, 2005 | 07:00 AM
  #8  
Casey's Avatar
Casey
Posting Guru
Joined: Jul 2003
Posts: 2,210
Likes: 2
If your transmission has a PTO access, you'll need $3,000 or so to make a PTO generator. If you don't have the access, add more money for a trans that does have it.

Almost all the manual trans have one, and very few of the automatics do.
 
Reply
FTE Stories

Ford Trucks for Ford Truck Enthusiasts

story-0

10 Ways Ford is LOSING to the Competition

 Joe Kucinski
story-1

Top 6 Best Deals Available on New Fords & Lincolns Right Now

 Brett Foote
story-2

This Hennessey Takes the Expedition Tremor's Off-Roading Capability to the Next Level

 Verdad Gallardo
story-3

Top 10 Fords at 2026 Carlisle Ford Nationals

 Joe Kucinski
story-4

3 Best / 3 Worst Parts of Modern Ford Ownership

 Brett Foote
story-5

10 Amazing Upgrades That Solve Common Ford Truck Owner Headaches

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-6

Every 2026 Ford Engine Explained

 Brett Foote
story-7

10 Ugly Ford Trucks That We Still Kinda Love

 Joe Kucinski
story-8

10 Things Every Truck Owner NEEDS (2026 Edition)

 Michael S. Palmer
story-9

Rezvani's Latest Post-Apocalyptic Monster Is a Ford F-150 Raptor Underneath

 Verdad Gallardo
Old Aug 4, 2005 | 10:43 AM
  #9  
fellro86's Avatar
fellro86
Hotshot
Joined: Feb 2004
Posts: 11,697
Likes: 3
From: Marengo, Iowa
Northern Tool has a pto generator with 13,000 watts output, 100 amp 120 V and 50 amp 240 volt. That should be adequate for most welders, priced at $999. Then you just need the drive and shafts and hanger bearing setups.
 
Reply
Old Aug 4, 2005 | 11:24 PM
  #10  
rayder's Avatar
rayder
New User
Joined: Jun 2005
Posts: 4
Likes: 0
From: Clovis CA
I would think that for the cost and sweat to make a generator work off the engine or PTO, you would be better off stopping by the local auto supply (Kragen, Auto Zone, Pep Boys etc) they have cheap ($200 plus or minus) 2Kw Generators. That's enough to run your welder and a TV.
 
Reply
Old Aug 4, 2005 | 11:32 PM
  #11  
fellro86's Avatar
fellro86
Hotshot
Joined: Feb 2004
Posts: 11,697
Likes: 3
From: Marengo, Iowa
gotta watch the amps, that is what a welder needs most. If it were that easy to power a welder, they wouldn't have to have a high dollar generator for the portables. Most 220 arc welders require 50 amp circuits for proper operation.
 
Reply
Old Aug 5, 2005 | 01:06 AM
  #12  
Diesel T's Avatar
Diesel T
Thread Starter
|
New User
Joined: Apr 2005
Posts: 10
Likes: 0
Thanks for all the help, it doesnt seem like ill be able to build the generator like I hoped cheaply
Thanks again
Tom
 
Reply
Old Aug 5, 2005 | 04:18 AM
  #13  
vlarwig's Avatar
vlarwig
New User
Joined: Apr 2005
Posts: 13
Likes: 0
hey tom . i just bought a portable unit on ebay from Zena www.zena.net they offer a wide variety of applications for under hood instalations . i was very impressed with the output of the 150 amp.. cuts 1/4 inch steel like butter and all their units are 100% duty cycle. These little units are not toys and you can get a quality engine driven welder for about 600 bucks.. Lars
 
Reply




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 04:02 PM.

story-0
10 Ways Ford is LOSING to the Competition

Slideshow: 10 ways Ford is losing to the competition

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-06-15 09:52:01


VIEW MORE
story-1
Top 6 Best Deals Available on New Fords & Lincolns Right Now

Some great targets in today's expensive world.

By Brett Foote | 2026-06-15 09:35:19


VIEW MORE
story-2
This Hennessey Takes the Expedition Tremor's Off-Roading Capability to the Next Level

Slideshow: The VelociRaptor Expedition gains a lift, upgraded suspension, Brembo brakes, and trail-ready equipment while retaining the stock 440-horsepower EcoBoost V6.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-06-12 11:01:55


VIEW MORE
story-3
Top 10 Fords at 2026 Carlisle Ford Nationals

Slideshow: Top 10 Fords at 2026 Ford Nationals

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-06-09 11:10:08


VIEW MORE
story-4
3 Best / 3 Worst Parts of Modern Ford Ownership

Based on years of owning multiple modern Ford products.

By Brett Foote | 2026-06-09 10:53:36


VIEW MORE
story-5
10 Amazing Upgrades That Solve Common Ford Truck Owner Headaches

SPONSORED: From muddy boots to rain-soaked cargo, these upgrades address some of the most common frustrations Ford truck owners face every day.

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-06-08 18:50:34


VIEW MORE
story-6
Every 2026 Ford Engine Explained

Here's everything you need to know about every Ford engine available for the 2026 model year.

By Brett Foote | 2026-06-05 12:58:01


VIEW MORE
story-7
10 Ugly Ford Trucks That We Still Kinda Love

Slideshow: 10 ugly Ford trucks that we still kinda love.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-06-03 09:51:16


VIEW MORE
story-8
10 Things Every Truck Owner NEEDS (2026 Edition)

Slideshow: the best gifts for dads & grads

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-06-03 15:43:58


VIEW MORE
story-9
Rezvani's Latest Post-Apocalyptic Monster Is a Ford F-150 Raptor Underneath

Slideshow: Called the Fortress, the 850-horsepower pickup combines Raptor underpinnings with military-inspired features, survival equipment, and a starting price of $285,000.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-06-03 11:38:36


VIEW MORE