stealers!!!!!!!!
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From: Danielsville pa.
stealers!!!!!!!!
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went to the dealer last night to get 05 f250 all set. than the number games begin they tried to roll in the rebate to what they were offering for my truck which going to leave me short enough to make payments well into the 500.00s. now no truck. family plans a good deal for cash. but they try to steal your trade right out from under you. monday well be right back to the way it was. car dealers/ lawyers same.....
went to the dealer last night to get 05 f250 all set. than the number games begin they tried to roll in the rebate to what they were offering for my truck which going to leave me short enough to make payments well into the 500.00s. now no truck. family plans a good deal for cash. but they try to steal your trade right out from under you. monday well be right back to the way it was. car dealers/ lawyers same.....
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Do a search on your browser for Kelly Blue Book. You will be able to look up a fair trade in value for your trade in vehicle. You can print it, if it works to your advantage, and take it with you to the steeler for some back up. They usually use the trade in value for trade in's. If you want more for your trade in vehicle, you can always sell it private party and get a little more. Then bring cash in for your down payment.
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Originally Posted by mck2000
car dealers/ lawyers same.....
I sued my car dealer over repairs. I took a small amount of joy trying to get an extra $25 bucks out of them (over and above the $850 they agreed to give me that caused me to sue them). They didn't want to give me that last $25 bucks, so we were going to trial. It was funny to listen to the $250/hour attorney they hired spend 20 minutes telling me they would not budge and give me the $25. I guess that is the worst kind of attorney--he who assists the stealerships in taking advantage of customers. I still don't have my check, those slimy (fill in the blanks).
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Yeah, they're such a pain in the butt that your usually better keeping what you have than going through the hassle of buying a new one. You'd think, them being salespeople, that they would WANT you to have the best experience and be happy about it so you'd come back next year and do it again.
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Originally Posted by FleetFilterBrian
You'd think, them being salespeople, that they would WANT you to have the best experience and be happy about it so you'd come back next year and do it again.
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LOL everytime a salesman insist on giving me his card i ask him if he'll be here in a couple months. I usually get that 
look. Go back and yep they done hit the road.
look. Go back and yep they done hit the road.
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I have always dealt with the same person for the last 30 years. He has changed dealerships once in that time period and did not move far away. He has since passed away and lots of his customers over the decades were at his memorial service and several spoke about him including me. I believe that many many salespersons are folk just like the rest of us - well at least most of us. The difference, IMHO is that some sales persons are looking for "what's best for me" instead of a "win-win". A win-win to me is when the customer gets a fair shake on the deal, the dealer comes out covering their costs and a reasonable profit (that is why they are in business) the customer is treated well with after-sale service and resolution to issues with their purchase if any.
Yes there are some salespeople that move around almost monthly - and there is a reason for that - business practices ring a bell?
Jeff and Ernie are a lot like Sean - who I considered a friend as much as the person I get a car from - who are in this for the long haul. Looking for a win-win agreement, and keeping us as a life-long customer.
There are some really good folk out there who happen to sell cars/trucks. Many give them a "stigma" which they don't deserve but can't control. We just have to find them.
Russ
Yes there are some salespeople that move around almost monthly - and there is a reason for that - business practices ring a bell?
Jeff and Ernie are a lot like Sean - who I considered a friend as much as the person I get a car from - who are in this for the long haul. Looking for a win-win agreement, and keeping us as a life-long customer.
There are some really good folk out there who happen to sell cars/trucks. Many give them a "stigma" which they don't deserve but can't control. We just have to find them.
Russ
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Originally Posted by DZari
Never start a negotiation telling the dealer you have a trade. That's the last thing you bring up. Set the price on the new ride then set the price on the trade.
I used to be in the car business, service end, but I know the drill. A good example was I helped out at a credit union sale. The price was set and displayed on the car. The dealer was bound by the contract to sell the car at that price, or they can leave. They weren't bound by the contract to offer trade-in value. Most offered wholesale value for the trade.
You can either get a good price on the trade, or a good price on the vehicle, not both. The dealer needs to make his money too.. He will do it on one end of the deal or the other.
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Just had a very pleasent experience buying my 2006 F250 Super Duty Lariat Crew Cab Short bed Powerstroke.
Wrote the president of the local dealership a letter letting him know that I had researched and priced my vehicle at Edmunds.com and had also received internet quotation of $500 over Factory Invoice. (Yes I know that they are still making a good living at that price, but I want them in business when I need them.) I then asked if they could come close to that price. I even told them exactally what I wanted including color, seat configuration, radio etc.
Got a call a couple of days later from a salesperson saying "Mr. Jones asked me to give you a call and see when you could come down." When I got there the salesman had my letter on the desk and the President had circled my offer and had written "OK, Bill" buy it.
Ended up getting an 06 for that price, the President even discounted the 3 year extended warrentee by waiving their commission, that was $1,000!
Love my truck!
Wrote the president of the local dealership a letter letting him know that I had researched and priced my vehicle at Edmunds.com and had also received internet quotation of $500 over Factory Invoice. (Yes I know that they are still making a good living at that price, but I want them in business when I need them.) I then asked if they could come close to that price. I even told them exactally what I wanted including color, seat configuration, radio etc.
Got a call a couple of days later from a salesperson saying "Mr. Jones asked me to give you a call and see when you could come down." When I got there the salesman had my letter on the desk and the President had circled my offer and had written "OK, Bill" buy it.
Ended up getting an 06 for that price, the President even discounted the 3 year extended warrentee by waiving their commission, that was $1,000!
Love my truck!
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Why don't you try selling your truck your self and then try buying one by getting quotes off the internet. No matter how many times you trade with a dealer they will have some way to get your trade for nothing - either some dealer hold back program, factory incentive, etc.
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please gang.
lets remember a lot of the men and ladies posting in here are employed in the auto/truck dealership environment. we give freely of what we have learned first hand and by the school of hard knocks, on the job, to help you all out better. please dealership or dealer. stealer or stealership sounds demeaning and makes us all feel like bad guys which we are not
lets remember a lot of the men and ladies posting in here are employed in the auto/truck dealership environment. we give freely of what we have learned first hand and by the school of hard knocks, on the job, to help you all out better. please dealership or dealer. stealer or stealership sounds demeaning and makes us all feel like bad guys which we are not
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Try not to take it personally.. You might be a good guy, but there are so many shisters out there, it's hard to remain objective.
I used to be in the business, I know all kinds of good and bad salesman. It goes with the job..
I used to be in the business, I know all kinds of good and bad salesman. It goes with the job..
Last edited by captchas; Jul 30, 2005 at 07:02 AM. Reason: quote removed