Motor swap?
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Motor swap?
Hey all,
I currently have a 86 f150 with a 302 and a 4spd. Would this motor swap in with some motor mounts? http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...MEBI%3AIT&rd=1 I would plan to add an aftermarket carb and cam and rebuild possibly. How much does an average rebuild cost?
I currently have a 86 f150 with a 302 and a 4spd. Would this motor swap in with some motor mounts? http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...MEBI%3AIT&rd=1 I would plan to add an aftermarket carb and cam and rebuild possibly. How much does an average rebuild cost?
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From: Marengo, Iowa
the link to ebay won't work, they are blocked here. Post the item number so we can do a search. Basically, it needs to have a bell housing of a 289, 302, 351W or inline six to match up to the trans, but the mount towers I'm not sure if the 6's share or not, but any of the V8s mentioned will.
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The auction is # 7988766070. Go to ebay.com and in the search box just shove that number in and press "search" and it comes right up.
The 351W I believe uses the same motor mounts, but if not your local pep boys, napa, et al will have a set for $20 a pop, and you need two. Certainly not a high ticket item.
If you can get that particular engine for $10.50 great, but there's a ton of surface rust around the valve cover lips on the heads, the water pump is rusty, etc. While this matters little it would indicate to me that the insides are probably rusty too. Engines that sit for long periods of time develop rust in interesting places - including pistons, crank journals, etc. Nothing a machine shop can't fix but the more work they have to do the higher the cost obviously.
A bone-stock rebuild typically is in the $1200-1500 range, prices vary from shop to shop and also based on locality. Here in NJ prices tend to be higher for everythiing because of the higher labor rates often found here.
The auction has 5 more days on it... so come Monday I'd call around to various junkyards reasonably near you, and see if they have running engines racked and stacked somewhere. There are three yards within 20 minutes of my house, and one of them takes out running engines, mounts them on a wooden pallet, and puts them on a shelf complete with all the accessories and bracketry (once in a while an alternator is missing, but one can walk through the yard for a replacement). V8's typically are $350 unless it's something weird or rare (like a 429 BOSS). For years I thought they just racked ones that "sounded good" but I've since found out not only do they have to sound good, but they also do a compression test as well as an oil pressure test before cleaning it up, and racking it. So for $350, you're getting at least a "decent" used motor. Certainly not all yards do this. The other two within a short distance do nothing of the kind. Half the time they don't even have keys for the cars scattered throughout which explains the broken glass everywhere.
Anyway, sidetracking aside, if you can find a junkyard, used motor, that might be a low cost option that is reasonable. Delay the rebuild costs for a few years.
Another option for rebuilding is to take the motor as-is in the ebay auction and trade it with ATK engines, Jasper engines, or the equivilent your local Napa/Autozombie/pepboys offer, and get a freshly done over longblock in a day or two. Then take all the accessories the ebay seller claims is on the floor next to the engine, slap them on, and you're good to go.
I am the king of "cheap"
The 351W I believe uses the same motor mounts, but if not your local pep boys, napa, et al will have a set for $20 a pop, and you need two. Certainly not a high ticket item.
If you can get that particular engine for $10.50 great, but there's a ton of surface rust around the valve cover lips on the heads, the water pump is rusty, etc. While this matters little it would indicate to me that the insides are probably rusty too. Engines that sit for long periods of time develop rust in interesting places - including pistons, crank journals, etc. Nothing a machine shop can't fix but the more work they have to do the higher the cost obviously.
A bone-stock rebuild typically is in the $1200-1500 range, prices vary from shop to shop and also based on locality. Here in NJ prices tend to be higher for everythiing because of the higher labor rates often found here.
The auction has 5 more days on it... so come Monday I'd call around to various junkyards reasonably near you, and see if they have running engines racked and stacked somewhere. There are three yards within 20 minutes of my house, and one of them takes out running engines, mounts them on a wooden pallet, and puts them on a shelf complete with all the accessories and bracketry (once in a while an alternator is missing, but one can walk through the yard for a replacement). V8's typically are $350 unless it's something weird or rare (like a 429 BOSS). For years I thought they just racked ones that "sounded good" but I've since found out not only do they have to sound good, but they also do a compression test as well as an oil pressure test before cleaning it up, and racking it. So for $350, you're getting at least a "decent" used motor. Certainly not all yards do this. The other two within a short distance do nothing of the kind. Half the time they don't even have keys for the cars scattered throughout which explains the broken glass everywhere.
Anyway, sidetracking aside, if you can find a junkyard, used motor, that might be a low cost option that is reasonable. Delay the rebuild costs for a few years.
Another option for rebuilding is to take the motor as-is in the ebay auction and trade it with ATK engines, Jasper engines, or the equivilent your local Napa/Autozombie/pepboys offer, and get a freshly done over longblock in a day or two. Then take all the accessories the ebay seller claims is on the floor next to the engine, slap them on, and you're good to go.
I am the king of "cheap"
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From: Marengo, Iowa
It will bolt in and the accessories should all bolt, the exhaust won't quite work unless you have dual exhaust as the deck height is 1" taller, moving the location of the exhaust manifolds in relation to the y-pipe. Make sure you get a flexplate with that as well, because the 351 and 302 have different balance, I think, can't remember what years for what situation that way, but it is easier to just have one with it..
