ignition wiring/1964
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ignition wiring/1964
Looking at a 1964 f100 with a short in the ignition wiring. White smoke in the cab. Old owner has had enough. How hard is this to fix? Trying to determine if the very low price is worth it if a major repair is in my future. Would this be explained in a repair manual? Thanks...
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Last time I saw that it was caused by no engine-to-body ground. It's easy to fix if you've got a spare cab wiring harness like I do. There aren't many things to unplug and plug back in on these old trucks. Cab harness is easy to replace.
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If you are comfortable with electrical work, it should be fairly easy to find that short. Melted insulation is a given after the smoke, so look for that first, then trace that circuit to see where the problem is. Like instig8r63 said there aren't many wires under that dash.
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I just took another look at it. Not too many wires coming into the dash as you mentioned. Is it really as simple as grounding to the frame? I am sure I can replace a few wires. I just don't want a major project on my hands before I even get rolling. Maybe you pros can tell me if you think this deal is still worth it.
1964 F100, has V-8 appears to be 292. The body has surface rust, but for a 41 year old truck left out in a pasture, that is to be expected. The interior is okay. The guy just wants it gone after putting in money for brakes, tires and then the fire. He is asking $450. What do you think???
1964 F100, has V-8 appears to be 292. The body has surface rust, but for a 41 year old truck left out in a pasture, that is to be expected. The interior is okay. The guy just wants it gone after putting in money for brakes, tires and then the fire. He is asking $450. What do you think???
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I have a '63 and I have had the white smoke as well. In my case the dash lights shorted out. Like Putt says, check the wiring in the dash. The offending circuit will be fried. If you are electrically challenged it may be a daunting task. Best point to remember is that in automobiles the ground is the important thing to have. When the circuits lose ground they may "search and find" another way to complete the circuit. I can and will help you if you need some pointers.
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$450 is a good deal.It just depends on how much work your willing to do on it.Like all old trucks as you fix things you will find other problems,some small and some maybe not so small.I would go for it though.As others have said the wiring is fairly simple compaired to todays trucks and there should be visiable signs if there was smoke.Get a wiring diagram and take your time looking for the problem.
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If its the ignition he problem is simple to fix, and $450 is a great price if it runs good. Might be a good price for a parts truck even.
The ignition wiring is simple. Simple enough to talk you through the basics, but the first question is, how do you know itt's the ignition, and not, say, the horn, or the lights that is smoking?
The ignition wiring is simple. Simple enough to talk you through the basics, but the first question is, how do you know itt's the ignition, and not, say, the horn, or the lights that is smoking?
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Well,
I took a leap of faith and bought the truck. I appreciate everyones help, and I expect I will be a regular poster with questions. Once I have it I will take photos to post.
The guy is already having sellers remorse. Now to tow it home...
Thanks again,
Rob
I took a leap of faith and bought the truck. I appreciate everyones help, and I expect I will be a regular poster with questions. Once I have it I will take photos to post.
The guy is already having sellers remorse. Now to tow it home...
Thanks again,
Rob
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The deal is done! I will tow it home midweek. I inspected the burnt wiring earlier today and the damage was confined to after market auxilary gauges and the igntion wire. He also had a new fusebox which does not appear to be effected at all. I am ordering the wiring manual, and he also included the shop manual which is a great resource. Thanks again for all the encouragement.
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Guys, and gals?
Thought you would want to know...I just spent 45 minutes replacing three wires which were definitely fried. I disconnected the also fried after market gauges. I had fire extinguisher and buckets of water standing by...Oh yes, we have start up!!! Fired right up and ran fairly well considering. Now to the little naggin things.
1.The choke cable is stuck inside the cab. It was in the path of the fire and somehow will not push in. I have adjusted it at the carb end and added a little wd-40, but it remains stuck. Any ideas?
2. The oil pressure gauge. The plastic tube was melted, and oil spewed inside near the firewall when I cranked it. Can I buy replacement tubing at any auto parts store?
I can't wait to get rolling...I was pleased that it started and seemed to run very smooth. Has a nice deep throaty humm. Thanks for all of your support so far.
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Thought you would want to know...I just spent 45 minutes replacing three wires which were definitely fried. I disconnected the also fried after market gauges. I had fire extinguisher and buckets of water standing by...Oh yes, we have start up!!! Fired right up and ran fairly well considering. Now to the little naggin things.
1.The choke cable is stuck inside the cab. It was in the path of the fire and somehow will not push in. I have adjusted it at the carb end and added a little wd-40, but it remains stuck. Any ideas?
2. The oil pressure gauge. The plastic tube was melted, and oil spewed inside near the firewall when I cranked it. Can I buy replacement tubing at any auto parts store?
I can't wait to get rolling...I was pleased that it started and seemed to run very smooth. Has a nice deep throaty humm. Thanks for all of your support so far.
ford coop
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I will bet you the choke cable case was the ground that allowed everything else to go up in smoke, and now the inner cable is welded to the outer, wound-wire casing. I doubt WD-40 is gonna cure it too. . . . it might be cable time, huh?
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Actually, one of the other wires I replaced was a ground, maybe THE ground which was missing. The choke cable is something I can work around manually until I get another one. No fires for now. Other than the oil pressure tube, things look pretty good.
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You can buy a kit to replace the tubing for the oil pressure gauge at most auto parts stores. Just make sure your fittings will accomodate the new tubing, or get a kit that has the fittings along with the tubing. I suggest taking the gauge with you to make sure you get the right stuff. Congrats--You got a great deal.
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The oil gauge tubing is pretty much standard size. Now, they offer it in plastic and copper. What would you rather have under your hood????
What a steal on the 64. I love it when people sell things thinking out of ignorance that there is some terrible problem and they need to dump it on the first taker. I have actually bought stuff and then fixed it right after signing the papers, in front of the ex-owner. Man that really makes some folks angry. Its good the truck is now in the care of someone who can take care of it a little better.
Lets see some pictures.......
What a steal on the 64. I love it when people sell things thinking out of ignorance that there is some terrible problem and they need to dump it on the first taker. I have actually bought stuff and then fixed it right after signing the papers, in front of the ex-owner. Man that really makes some folks angry. Its good the truck is now in the care of someone who can take care of it a little better.
Lets see some pictures.......