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Old Jul 11, 2005 | 12:43 PM
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She lives!

She is running again! Finally. My Sweet Southern Comfort '66 F-100 is up and running, with a 460/C-6 combo in place of her tired old FE. (She had a 3 speed overdrive until I swapped it out for a C-6 a year ago.) We had to move from SC to Maryland, and she blew the motor on the way, back in December of '04.
Now, I need only figure out the wiring for the turn signals and the rest of the steering column.
Some lessons learned:
Use an '83 - '86 oil pan for good clearance and slobber-free oil changes.
If going to a serpentine system, use a system from a truck, not a van. The PS pump is different, so you cannot use a truck PS pump and lines. In any case, use the brackets and pulleys from a truck engine, not a Lincoln one.
The passenger side serpentine bracket is still available fom Ford for $75. The driver's side is obsolete, but is available through Green's Obsolete Parts ($125). For an '88 460, that is.
The water pump sticks out from the front further than the FE pump; clearance between the radiator and the clutch front (heavy duty) is less than an inch.
Only a 460 water pump clutch fits a 460; you cannot use one from the FE or other engines. '80s and '70s 460 clutches will mount to the water pump correctly.
You must use a '70s fan on the fan clutch. An '80s fan is too big, and will strike the radiator inlet and outlet. I got a 7-blade off a '79 with a 400; it bolted up fine to the '86 heavy duty 460 fan clutch I am using. I could have used fans from SOME early Lincoln 460s as well. The center hole was not large enough on some of them. Crazy Rays south of Baltimore had a bunch of good ones.
The FE 4 core radiator seems to do fine for heat transfer without a shroud, but that is true so far only for extended idling and for short trips. She isn't insured or tagged yet, so I cannot drive her on public roads to give her a full and accurate stress test.
If you use the '70s 3 piece engine mounts (with perches), the transmission will bolt right up to the crossmember, and the driveline will not need to be changed. (I changed from a FE with C-6 to a 460 with C-6, and it all bolted up exactly the same.)
The FE fan shroud that worked well with the old 352 won't line up with the 460 fan. It sits higher; if I used a '70s radiator, it might work OK, but the '76 radiator I had was too tall and bumped into the hood.
Use the '80s thermostat housing and upper radiator hose. Cut 2 inches off each end, and the heat will form it to the correct shape. I had to use the '80s thermostat housing with the serpentine system. The '80s style angles upward; the '70's style is parallel to the ground.
I had to fabricate a bracket for the accelerator linkage. I used the '80s bracket as a stand, cut the clamp-type section off the FE bracket, and bolted them together. The FE bracket mount holes are different both in the location and the angle; it just won't bolt up to the 460 manifold.
Exhaust was different, but I just used the front end of the exhaust from a '77 F-250 and clamped it to my existing system, where we cutoff the pipes from the FE manifolds.
I'll add more as remember it!
 

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Old Jul 11, 2005 | 02:35 PM
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congradulations and thanks for the information.
 
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Old Jul 11, 2005 | 05:36 PM
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Good job bud.Had my doubts when I first saw it.

Congrats,
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Old Jul 11, 2005 | 06:01 PM
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Way to go!
 
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Old Jul 11, 2005 | 09:02 PM
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Awesome update on engine conversion especially serpentine belts; glad to here your up and running; to bad your farther away from me in Maryland now, still chugging along in clarksville.

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Old Jul 11, 2005 | 09:56 PM
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Excellent, Banjo!!!! Hopefully I'll get to post a similar living tale soon.
 
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Old Jul 11, 2005 | 11:01 PM
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Very nice good job this could almost be a tech article
 
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Old Jul 12, 2005 | 02:58 AM
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Thumbs up Good Job My Friend

I knew ya could do it "BP". . . . GOOD JOB & congrat's

Altho I never used later model stuff myself, like serpentine belts or Oil Pan, that's good info. How do you like the way it sounds and drives with that sweet engine?

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John da picker, I copied this info from the net, and didn't get the author to give the credit to. If you can use it, I hope it helps.

John

67-72 steering column pin out.

Big Connector:

White/Blue stripe: Right Front Turn Signal/Indicator on Instrument Panel Green/White Stripe: Left Front Turn Signal/Indicator on Instrument
Panel

Blue/Yellow stripe: Ground When horn Depressed

Red/Black Stripe: Brake Pedal Switch (12 VDC when brake pedal is depressed.

Blue: Turn Signal Flasher (Provides 12 volts to Turn Signals) Little Connector:

Green: Right Rear Turn Signal/Stop Lamp

Yellow: Left Rear Turn Signal/Stop Lamp



Connect the following color wires together.

White/Blue Stripe on steering column: Connect to White/Blue Stripe on big connector Green/White Stripe on steering column: Connect to
Green/White Stripe on big connector Black/Red Stripe on steering column: Connect to Red/Black Stripe on big connector Blue on steering
column: Connect to Blue on big connector Yellow/Black Stripe on steering column: Connect to Green on little connector Light Green on
steering column: Connect to Yellow on little connector
 
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