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I need to know where to get some original style rivets that hold the aluminum tag on the door. I replaced the stock door and now I would like to put the proper tag on the replacement door. I want it to look as stock as possible so the "MAN" don't think it was tampered with and impound my truck. anyone have Ideas?
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If you have clear paperwork on the truck I wouldn't worry about it. They can check the VIN on the frame rail also. I would put both VIN tags on the door. Just stamp one as a "replacement door" and a date with a metal letter stamp set. Put the original back on with normal rivets thru two drilled holes. These trucks are getting so old they don't care a lot anymore.
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I have a question about Stock parts, I bought the truck from a friend and he got it from a guy that bought a new truck 13 years ago right after he rebuildt the tranny and engine. He drove the truck for aprox. a year and then decided he wanted to drive his new truck all of the time. So he parked it in the woods and my friend chris bought it and sold it to me. So what I wanted to know is how I can find out if there was an owner befor this guy? And How I can tell if I have all stock parts/engine/tranny?
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You can decode your VIN door tag and other tags on components. Check Mil1ion's user gallery for links to decoder info.
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>I need to know where to get some original style rivits that hold the aluminum tag on the door.
I don't remember the name of the place but I will look it up in one of my old Mustang Magazine's, and post it here on this reply.
* Note*
You could get a new data plate and rivets from them for your Mustang.
Edit: I found it.
Pony & Corral
Order desk 1-800-858-7868
Info Desk -301-839-6666
7315-Livingston Road
Oxon Hill,Md
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>If you have clear paperwork on the truck I wouldn't worry
>about it. They can check the VIN on the frame rail also. I
>would put both VIN tags on the door. Just stamp one as a
>"replacement door" and a date with a metal letter stamp set.
>Put the original back on with normal rivets thru two drilled
>holes. These trucks are getting so old they don't care a lot
>anymore.
>
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i just got to ask why you would leave a tag on the door that is unrelated to the truck? it does not make any sense to me but i assume you have some reasoning? in many states two tags like that will get the truck towed and inspected even if it is clean and you stamped teh wrong tag as a replacement. why would you risk it? also since the rivets can be pushed out from the inside easily they can be reused. sorry, i am not understanding your train of thought. hawkrod
>about it. They can check the VIN on the frame rail also. I
>would put both VIN tags on the door. Just stamp one as a
>"replacement door" and a date with a metal letter stamp set.
>Put the original back on with normal rivets thru two drilled
>holes. These trucks are getting so old they don't care a lot
>anymore.
>
>Thanks for using FTE!
>-Eric, Torque1st,
i just got to ask why you would leave a tag on the door that is unrelated to the truck? it does not make any sense to me but i assume you have some reasoning? in many states two tags like that will get the truck towed and inspected even if it is clean and you stamped teh wrong tag as a replacement. why would you risk it? also since the rivets can be pushed out from the inside easily they can be reused. sorry, i am not understanding your train of thought. hawkrod
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[updated:LAST EDITED ON 01-Jan-03 AT 10:19 PM (EST)]wow, ok I didn't know they were reuseable thanks hawkrod I will look at it closer. I had drilled out the ones on the orignal door so I will have to see if I can save these on the newer door.
thanks also to Dennis I will chek it out if I can't save these.
just trying to keep it stock looking cause Texas reqires a inspection every year and they check the vin to be sure its the actual truck.
if it so much as looks suspicous the garage that inspects it will and or can report it and it might fail the inspection.
hell they will even fail it if it don't have the stock air cleaner and heat riser! I love Texas but when it comes to their inspections of vehicles it sucks.
thanks again to all who replied.
EDIT: Dennis that starfleet thingey is sweet! trek on man!
thanks also to Dennis I will chek it out if I can't save these.
just trying to keep it stock looking cause Texas reqires a inspection every year and they check the vin to be sure its the actual truck.
if it so much as looks suspicous the garage that inspects it will and or can report it and it might fail the inspection.
hell they will even fail it if it don't have the stock air cleaner and heat riser! I love Texas but when it comes to their inspections of vehicles it sucks.
thanks again to all who replied.
EDIT: Dennis that starfleet thingey is sweet! trek on man!
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Be careful if you do move those tags. As I understand it, in Kansas there is only one person in the whole state authorized to move/replace those tags and rivets. This is the State Trooper who travels from county to county and does vehicle inspections. Check with your courthouse, etc first.
I think the way they do it here is that you bring all your paperwork to the courthouse, when the trooper is going to be there, including a receipt for the new door, and it gets changed in his presence. Anything else is supposed to be a major no-no.
Of course people do it on there own here all the time, but if the truck does get inspected for some other reason it could cause trouble for you. Especially if you didn't use the funky big rivets or something.
I think the way they do it here is that you bring all your paperwork to the courthouse, when the trooper is going to be there, including a receipt for the new door, and it gets changed in his presence. Anything else is supposed to be a major no-no.
Of course people do it on there own here all the time, but if the truck does get inspected for some other reason it could cause trouble for you. Especially if you didn't use the funky big rivets or something.
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I do things like that to leave a clear "audit trail" for any paperwork and I keep the paperwork. If there is some state official that can check the paperwork and bless the transfer at some later date that is great. I just keep everything with the truck, both paperwork and tags. If it gets inspected for some reason and the inspector does not understand what has been done then you can go jump thru the hoops and get it all blessed.
The original door tag with the VIN number will be there with no attempt at subterfuge like tampering with rivets. Anyone can match the door tag with the frame VIN and your title. Keep a copy of the title with the door paperwork and registration, any trooper can check it in moments.
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I do things like that to leave a clear "audit trail" for any paperwork and I keep the paperwork. If there is some state official that can check the paperwork and bless the transfer at some later date that is great. I just keep everything with the truck, both paperwork and tags. If it gets inspected for some reason and the inspector does not understand what has been done then you can go jump thru the hoops and get it all blessed.
The original door tag with the VIN number will be there with no attempt at subterfuge like tampering with rivets. Anyone can match the door tag with the frame VIN and your title. Keep a copy of the title with the door paperwork and registration, any trooper can check it in moments.
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i am guessing many of you guys have not looked closely at the "rivets" or tags on your door. first of all they are not really rivets, they are simply aluminum buttons pushed into the holes. those tags are meant to stay with the chassis they represent. around here a cop can tow your vehicle if you have two on your door and he will let you and the court decide if you made the right decision. hawkrod
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I suppose if I could get them out without deforming them I might be tempted to try it as long as some sharp eyed inspector couldn't spot it. Otherwise I try to keep everything out in the open. Of course the cops aren't quite as touchy where I am. I have found they have enough intelligence to figure things out fairly quickly. They aren't interested in busting your chops over nothing, I suppose they just don't want to do the paperwork -hehe
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well, i guess its all in where you live. i have lived in several states and they were all high car theft areas so i think the cops would be inclined to look twice at more than one serial number. the real issue here is we are talking about the warantee tag not the serial number sticker. new rivets are easily available, but like i said, they push right out from the inside (i use the plastic head of a screw driver). i remove the tag from all the doors i sell because i would not some young kid to put it on his truck and then get hassled. hawkrod
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The later model vehicles did have those nasty tamper proof rivets in them. The inspectors look for a multitude of signs of tampering. When they see it here they get rather vigorous with their search for other VIN numbers. The only time we have to get anything inspected is when the vehicle changes hands and is coming into the state. They never even look at VIN tags for in-state transfers. All they want to see is the title.
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it works because the metal plate was never meant to be used for registration purposes so it is not permanently attached to the truck (like an ID plate would be). the plate is a warantee tag and you may not realize it but half of it was removed when the dealer took delivery. the bottom half of the tag is broken off and attached to the owner warantee card. that is why the top corners are rounded but not the bottom corners. ford stamps a line accross the tag so it will break cleanly. i actually have a 68 tag around here that has the bottom still attached. as always, glad to help. hawkrod