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Stay away from plug in chips!!! The ecm does not get a good seal once the chip is in and you will get water in it. Use a SuperChips tuner, I sell about 10 a month and no problems. Even had where customers did not remove it before taking it to a dealer and the dealer flashed it. SuperChips works very well with the customer and never seen and codes thrown due to the program.
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From: SC
Originally Posted by dieselhp
Stay away from plug in chips!!! The ecm does not get a good seal once the chip is in and you will get water in it. Use a SuperChips tuner, I sell about 10 a month and no problems. Even had where customers did not remove it before taking it to a dealer and the dealer flashed it. SuperChips works very well with the customer and never seen and codes thrown due to the program.
I have never had a problem with my chip. I had a Superchip tuner but UPGRADED to a flip chip. Sounds like you are a dealer trying to make a sell. 
2000 F-250 7.3L, CC 4x4, 4" turbo back exhaust, Tymar intake, 6 position flip chip, Wicked Wheel, Overboost eliminator, CCV mod and much more.
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I don not need to sell. I sell them all and am not trying to sell anything. I can ony tell you what we see. Have changed many ecm's due to water. If you want a chip, do it. They work fine untill you go thru deep water. Most people think they can drive the desel thru deep water, not so.
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I am not knocking the Superchips Tuner, like I stated I had one. But what about all the folks like me, who have flip chips and wash their engines along with the truck?
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From: Rio Rico, AZ.
Originally Posted by dieselhp
Stay away from plug in chips!!! The ecm does not get a good seal once the chip is in and you will get water in it. Use a SuperChips tuner, I sell about 10 a month and no problems. Even had where customers did not remove it before taking it to a dealer and the dealer flashed it. SuperChips works very well with the customer and never seen and codes thrown due to the program.
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From: Shawnee, Ks
Originally Posted by kwazyca
Best is a chip. Best chip (IMHO) is a Jody Tipton custom burned chip or PCM.
As far as programmers go.
I have heard good things about the Edge Juice w/Attitude.
Tom
As far as programmers go.
I have heard good things about the Edge Juice w/Attitude.
Tom
Whats up Tom?Yea my ECM is in the same place Kwik. I have a flip chip and if it gets submerged in water then I have other things to worry about because that means my cab is submerged
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From: Redding, CA
Originally Posted by dieselhp
Stay away from plug in chips!!! The ecm does not get a good seal once the chip is in and you will get water in it. Use a SuperChips tuner, I sell about 10 a month and no problems. Even had where customers did not remove it before taking it to a dealer and the dealer flashed it. SuperChips works very well with the customer and never seen and codes thrown due to the program.
Glad I am not buying anything from you. You don't even know where the PCM is? I am sorry, but that is an unforgivable mistake for a vendor in my book.
Tom
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From: Redding, CA
Originally Posted by bigdaddyTank
There goes the neighborhood Whats up Tom?
Yea my ECM is in the same place Kwik. I have a flip chip and if it gets submerged in water then I have other things to worry about because that means my cab is submerged
Whats up Tom?Yea my ECM is in the same place Kwik. I have a flip chip and if it gets submerged in water then I have other things to worry about because that means my cab is submerged
Good to see you.
Tom
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From: New Hampshire
i got the predator tuner because i wanted to experiment with some plug and play hp settings... nice unit that works well... the tow program is good and the 80 hp program is real nice for a daily driver.. 85 hp is a little wild for dailly driving and the 100 hp program is almost useless because i can't keep the rear end on the ground... one thing this tunner has taught me is that a flip chip is the way to go, but only when you finally get all your mods installed... then you can get a chip that is setup for your trucks specific combination of mods...
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From: NorCal
I can't speak for any other tuner, but I personally have the Predator and it is awesome. I run 305/55-20s (Roughly 33-inches tall, 12-inches wide) on the 85 HP setting and lighting those things up from a stop light is no problem. I can't imagine how bad the traction would be on the 85 HP tune with stock pizza cutters, not to mention the 100 HP tune. Believe it or not, I haven't tried the 60 HP tow-safe tune yet...only the 85 and 100 HP tunes. 100 HP is too much, scared I'll break the tranny lol. I don't drive like an ***, 95% of the time I'm about 1/4 of the way into the throttle and the truck moves along great.