Toyota Seemingly Indestructable
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Toyota Seemingly Indestructable
I recently encountered this rather long video that convinced me how tough Toyota motors (or at least some of the old diesels) can be. Even though most diesels can withstand more stress than the average motor, this one is simply tortured to death while still being able to run. Not to mention, the frame and the chassis stay intact even after being dropped from a building.
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A lot of it is perception. I recently sold my old T-100 with 180,000 miles on it to the first person who looked at it (double what the toyota dealer offered me in trade.) I currently have my old Buick for sale with 170,000 miles on it and I can't even get anyone to drive it even though it is about 1/3 the price I got for the Toyota and is in similar condition and it runs better.
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osbornk- a lot of that is the truck vs. car thing. a 170K mile pickup isn't hard to get off of- any brand, because the perception is there's still life left in it. Cars are different- a 150K mile car is a different story.
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Great video and testament to the strength and durability of Toyota trucks! Its why I own one.
Quick story: My uncle bought a brand new Toyota p/up with the 22R engine. At 1000 miles, he changed the oil, but not the filter (he couldn't get it off...wrong tools). He drove the truck another 45,000 miles (never adding so much as a drop of oil) when the oil light came on. Two weeks later with the oil light still on, the engine let go in a cloud of blue smoke. So tell the guys at top gear...that's how you kill a Toyota. My uncle still believes in Toyota products, but now gets the oil changed every 3,000 miles. Some folks gotta learn the hard way I guess.
Quick story: My uncle bought a brand new Toyota p/up with the 22R engine. At 1000 miles, he changed the oil, but not the filter (he couldn't get it off...wrong tools). He drove the truck another 45,000 miles (never adding so much as a drop of oil) when the oil light came on. Two weeks later with the oil light still on, the engine let go in a cloud of blue smoke. So tell the guys at top gear...that's how you kill a Toyota. My uncle still believes in Toyota products, but now gets the oil changed every 3,000 miles. Some folks gotta learn the hard way I guess.
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That really has nothing to do with the engine itself. The type of oil he was using would play the biggest role. Not to mention, I really dont belive that.
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No, its not a typo...45000 miles! As far as the oil is concerned, I don't know what brand it was, but I do know it was conventional oil. Nick, I don't care if you believe me or not, that is what happenend...and I do feel it has everything to do with the engine itself. Anyone will tell you the 22R was a very solid, well built motor. I wish Toyota still made them in the U.S.
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Fair enough....I can't possibly understand how he couldnt change the oil for 45,000 miles though. He didnt notice any lack in power, and all the blue coming out of his exhaust when he started it up? Or he just didnt give a (you know what)?
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if it wasn't burning oil why would he see blue smoke?
I didn't change the oil in my dad's 88 ford ranger with a 2.9 for a few years, it always ran great. I think I put around 35-40k miles on the same oil from about 200,000 miles to about 240,000 miles. when I did change it, it was still full and not that bad. It ran until 285,000 miles and my little bro totalled it by hitting a dump truck.
we ran my older brother's straight 6 nova at redline for about 3 minutes without oil or coolant, and once we filled it back up, it still ran. We were trying to blow it up, but after numerous things, we just scrapped the car, it still ran when he got rid of it.
I didn't change the oil in my dad's 88 ford ranger with a 2.9 for a few years, it always ran great. I think I put around 35-40k miles on the same oil from about 200,000 miles to about 240,000 miles. when I did change it, it was still full and not that bad. It ran until 285,000 miles and my little bro totalled it by hitting a dump truck.
we ran my older brother's straight 6 nova at redline for about 3 minutes without oil or coolant, and once we filled it back up, it still ran. We were trying to blow it up, but after numerous things, we just scrapped the car, it still ran when he got rid of it.
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I just assumed. I have never seen an engine get abused that way. I figured if the oil was that dirty and sludged up, blocking off the filter, and such, some of it would settle in the cylinders. I'm I way off base here?
Why did you guys abuse that Ranger like that? Thats even worse abuse than the toyota! Glad she took it with a smile.
Why did you guys abuse that Ranger like that? Thats even worse abuse than the toyota! Glad she took it with a smile.
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I know of a man who traded in his GMC truck with 90,000 miiles on it at the local dealer and was back in to get something to his new truck and the salesman brought a potential customer over to him so he could tell him what a good truck it had been. The man said it was the best truck he had ever had. Then he added "It is so good that I have never had the oil plug out of it".
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There is the guy here that buys a new lincoln every year. Other than a new set of tires at 40k, and fuel, he does nothing for it. Trades off every year with 70-80K on the odometer and gets a great trade in price. His driving technique includes hours of 80-120 mph stints on back roads going to his different calls. When MT had the safe & prudent speed limit, he was in the paper a lot for fighting tickets he felt were not warranted. (110+ mph on a 2 lane rural highway)
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When gas approached $2.00 per gallon, I decided it was a good time to buy me a used luxury car and looked at Town Cars on E-Bay (and bought one). I did a sort of the cars with highest miles to lowest and at the time a couple had in excess of 500,000 miles on them and many had 300,000 or more. Many had a hugh number of miles because they are used as Limos and never stop.
I did sorts on everything else I was interested in and none of them had cars approaching the miles on the Lincolns. A couple of old Mercedes diesels had a lot of miles but Japanese brands had far fewer miles. I think they may be more dependable but a major breakdown at high miles is so expensive that they are junked rather than kept in service.
I did sorts on everything else I was interested in and none of them had cars approaching the miles on the Lincolns. A couple of old Mercedes diesels had a lot of miles but Japanese brands had far fewer miles. I think they may be more dependable but a major breakdown at high miles is so expensive that they are junked rather than kept in service.