Toyota Seemingly Indestructable
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Albundy, ill have to disagree with the bad mouthing,
First off ford did not bad mouth the other manufactures they simply made comparisons,
and awhile back toyota was in a sense bad mouthing when they ran a commercial with
a toyota towing a boat up a highway hill passing a ford and chevy saying can they do this nooooo with the biggest motor in it class. Everyone is trying to compare there
trucks to ford, simply because ford is best and everyone always trys to knock the
number one off the top. And maybe they didnt change parts but they certainly had to
take things off to drain and dry the salt water,also refuel the thing, like i said great
editing.
First off ford did not bad mouth the other manufactures they simply made comparisons,
and awhile back toyota was in a sense bad mouthing when they ran a commercial with
a toyota towing a boat up a highway hill passing a ford and chevy saying can they do this nooooo with the biggest motor in it class. Everyone is trying to compare there
trucks to ford, simply because ford is best and everyone always trys to knock the
number one off the top. And maybe they didnt change parts but they certainly had to
take things off to drain and dry the salt water,also refuel the thing, like i said great
editing.
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Of course the mechanics had to take parts off to let them drain. After all, the truck had been completely submerged in saltwater. The video was edited so you wouldn't have to watch the mechanics at work for 45 minutes.
Without any new parts, I think its respectable for a Toyota truck to survive this type of "test." The video was not meant to compare the Helix to any other Toyota truck (such as a late model Tacoma) or any other manufacturer's truck. It is simply there to show you what the Helix could withstand.
Toyota had no part in the production of this video. It was made by an independent company who wanted to test the durability of an old Toyota truck.
The video's purpose was simple and so was my intent of posting it. Take it as you will.
Without any new parts, I think its respectable for a Toyota truck to survive this type of "test." The video was not meant to compare the Helix to any other Toyota truck (such as a late model Tacoma) or any other manufacturer's truck. It is simply there to show you what the Helix could withstand.
Toyota had no part in the production of this video. It was made by an independent company who wanted to test the durability of an old Toyota truck.
The video's purpose was simple and so was my intent of posting it. Take it as you will.
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Originally Posted by i1dery
bigf350 you need to whach the part after they pull it out of the water, they had the
injecters out to pump the salt water out they also had what i assume to be the filters
out to drain them as well and what ever they had to do to dry it out befor starting it
and who knows what they didnt show befor they started it.So i say you do that to any diesel motor and wala itll start. and how long did it take doesnt show. But if you choose to believe in the video cool, Ill just leave it at that Great editing.
injecters out to pump the salt water out they also had what i assume to be the filters
out to drain them as well and what ever they had to do to dry it out befor starting it
and who knows what they didnt show befor they started it.So i say you do that to any diesel motor and wala itll start. and how long did it take doesnt show. But if you choose to believe in the video cool, Ill just leave it at that Great editing.
A local mechanic say this video and decided to put an old Ford diesel to the test. He drove it out to the beach and pulled it halfway into the water so that the motor would be partially submerged. It was pulled out with a winch after a while. The motor was completely dead on the spot. He worked on it for hours but the saltwater had ruined most of the truck's parts.
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Its no secret that engines hate water, especially diesels. Their delicate fuel pumps and injectors can be ruined by water in the fuel, much less sand, silt, and sea water. I have read warnings in a GM diesel owner's manual not to operate a diesel in blowing snow, much less submerging the whole truck in the ocean?!? Try to give credit where credit is due gentlemen. People in Africa/Australia don't drive American diesels on safaris, they drive old Land Cruisers and Toyota pickups into the bush. There's got to be a reason for that. Just some food for thought...
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People in Africa/Australia don't drive American diesels on safaris, they drive old Land Cruisers and Toyota pickups into the bush. There's got to be a reason for that. Just some food for thought...
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Originally Posted by BrianJ77
I have read warnings in a GM diesel owner's manual not to operate a diesel in blowing snow
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Those Toyotas are really good rigs; I don't think it's just reputation. It was simply good engineering, and the fact that they didn't have all this complicated electronic cr@p that even trucks have these days. We had a Toyota pickup in my autoshop class with a 22R 4-banger in highschool as a parts runner and errand truck. The damn thing had 270k miles on it, was driven by many teenagers making parts runs. We all can imagine how well it gets treated, then. Even carb'd, it still started on the first twist of the key, burned no oil, didn't miss, and generally just never let us down. That truck had tons of life left in it.
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I have to agree with the no-electronics deal. My carburated tractor which is not in service due to overheating has seen it's fair share of water...Was washing it and didn't realize the air filter was missing but the case was present....anyways...cranked over the puppy, or tried to. Took off the head and water poured out. Sat there and cranked her for what seemed like an eternity and then she fired. The engine has caught fire a few times, i've run into many things with it, back literally over it with my ranger, gone of 2' drop offs at 15mph (fastest she'll go) etc. I bash the ____ out of it. Had to check to make sure it was not a hilux in disguise...lol Cool clip/movie 
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The 22R was a very dependable motor, but it also made NO power! I think that they were only 90 hp on their best day.
Also, I think Toyota's quality has slipped recently. Their shareholders are pushing for more and more production and because of that they are having more problems with recalls.
This year they have had 4 or 5 major recalls issued. I honestly dont see their quality being any better than Ford, GM or Chrysler anymore. Its all perception and hype.
Toyota made some great trucks in the 80s and 90s (I owned 2 4Runners) but I think that the push for increased production has really hurt them.
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Also, I think Toyota's quality has slipped recently. Their shareholders are pushing for more and more production and because of that they are having more problems with recalls.
This year they have had 4 or 5 major recalls issued. I honestly dont see their quality being any better than Ford, GM or Chrysler anymore. Its all perception and hype.
Toyota made some great trucks in the 80s and 90s (I owned 2 4Runners) but I think that the push for increased production has really hurt them.
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SR5 is a trim package not a specific vehicle.
I own an 89 Toyota pickup, it was my first vehicle and has proven to be extrodinarly reliable, drives great and is still tight after many years of hard use. I purchased my much newer F-250 last october and have had more trouble with it since then than I have had with my toyota since I've been driving. Its the little things like door hinges, brakes, controlls, steering design etc that set it apart from what is available from domestically owned companies. If toyota made a 3/4 ton diesel pickup truck I'd sell my F-250 and buy one imeadiatly. Untill then I'll keep working on this ford.
I own an 89 Toyota pickup, it was my first vehicle and has proven to be extrodinarly reliable, drives great and is still tight after many years of hard use. I purchased my much newer F-250 last october and have had more trouble with it since then than I have had with my toyota since I've been driving. Its the little things like door hinges, brakes, controlls, steering design etc that set it apart from what is available from domestically owned companies. If toyota made a 3/4 ton diesel pickup truck I'd sell my F-250 and buy one imeadiatly. Untill then I'll keep working on this ford.
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If salt water gets into the dash, where everything runs in millivolts, that can make a very bad scene for any newer vehicle. They are pretty much totalled. On an older vehicle you wouldnt have as much to worry about. The electronics would be what would stop a ford or cummins after a flood. Not so much the engines. Now if you were talking 12v or IDI then they would probably run fine if you drain the water before cranking. Gotta change the fluid in the diffs the crankcase and drain the fuel tank before you drive it.
As someone who has suffered a vehicle fire. That thing didnt burn long after the camera was shut off. A vehicle fire is pretty devastating. Also they just kissed it with that wrecking ball. That ball coulda crumpled that truck up to the size of a refrigerator inside of half an hour.
Lastly and not leastly. Its very expensive to put a pickup on top of a 24 story building. I think they found a sponser after the first show of schmoozing toyota.
That said. Those 80s toyotas were indestructable. As are the landcruisers. I have jumped a set of railroad tracks with one of mine. 35 year old truck out catching air on the factory suspension. Kinda neat. Nothing broke nothing damaged. My teeth were loose for a while though.
As someone who has suffered a vehicle fire. That thing didnt burn long after the camera was shut off. A vehicle fire is pretty devastating. Also they just kissed it with that wrecking ball. That ball coulda crumpled that truck up to the size of a refrigerator inside of half an hour.
Lastly and not leastly. Its very expensive to put a pickup on top of a 24 story building. I think they found a sponser after the first show of schmoozing toyota.
That said. Those 80s toyotas were indestructable. As are the landcruisers. I have jumped a set of railroad tracks with one of mine. 35 year old truck out catching air on the factory suspension. Kinda neat. Nothing broke nothing damaged. My teeth were loose for a while though.
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yeah, totally didnt burn for long. Those top gear guys did the same thing to a perfectly good porsche. They didnt drive it into the sea or anything but they trashed the hell out of it. I believe the video is on muchosucko.com under vechile videos. it was kinda hard to watch. (edited: BigF350)
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