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Old Jul 4, 2005 | 11:33 AM
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Black plastic? I think that would absorb heat. What's the difference, bad design.
plastic of any color is an insulator and does not hold heat
 
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Old Jul 4, 2005 | 01:11 PM
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My filter minder came apart just the other day. The body is still connected to the air box but the reset button was dangling on the wiring. I took it all off and taped up the wiring plug, Is there a replacement part for this since i lost the spring that was once inside?? Also was wondering if anyone runs an aftermarket filter with this still in use. Thanks for the info
 
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Old Jul 5, 2005 | 12:02 AM
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Where is the CAC Tube ? I just posted my story on this.
 
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Old Jul 5, 2005 | 12:06 AM
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Originally Posted by smokin_6.0
My filter minder came apart just the other day. The body is still connected to the air box but the reset button was dangling on the wiring. I took it all off and taped up the wiring plug, Is there a replacement part for this since i lost the spring that was once inside?? Also was wondering if anyone runs an aftermarket filter with this still in use. Thanks for the info
That is exactly what mine did. Ford has an upgraded replacement part if I remember right it was around $22.

My airraid intake still uses the factory filter minder.
 
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Old Jul 5, 2005 | 12:07 AM
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Where is the CAC Tube ? I just posted my story on this.
There is one running from the turbo out the the grill area, then other from the grill area to the engine intake.
 
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Old Jul 5, 2005 | 01:39 AM
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I'm not going to argue which is better, obviously the PLASTIC part Ford chose to go with doesn't work too well. They have now chosen to go with a METAL tube, with silicon rubber hoses, and heavyduty turbocharger clamps.
Comparisons are senseless,this is a truck, not a Mustang, Camaro, etc.


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plastic of any color is an insulator and does not hold heat
 
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Old Jul 5, 2005 | 08:42 AM
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Yeah, your right its not a mustang or camaro. You wouldn't see a mustang/camaro with 17:1 compression and 25+ psi of boost unless it was a race car. But they did go to the plastic tube for a reason. The diesel mech that I spoke to about it said that the metal tube after the IC was picking up too much heat from the engine. Hurting the cooler air coming from the IC. I'm hoping the Autotap will let me watch the Inlet air temp. I'm curious how hot that air is.

I don't believe the plastic pipe is to totally blame with them poping off. I think its the poor PCV design and all the oil that gets into the pipes. I bet if they fixed the PCV system, the pipe wouldn't blow off at all. 25 to 30 psi AFTER the IC is a lot of pressure to be holding. Add the nice layer of oil that seeps out and pop goes the pipe. I bet the reason the metal pipe holds, is they can crank the clamps down a lot harder on the metal then they can the plastic.
 
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Old Jul 5, 2005 | 11:33 AM
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Originally Posted by 3/4ER
They have now chosen to go with a METAL tube, with silicon rubber hoses, and heavyduty turbocharger clamps.
One thing that worries me is the rubber hoses. In ten years are they going to blow unexpectedly? I guess it'll be like any other hose, replace every 50,000 miles or so. I have one metal tube, and one plastic tube. I'll have to research the torque for the clamp nuts to be sure that's the same for each.

 
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Old Jul 5, 2005 | 01:57 PM
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Key word SILICON, probably out live you.
 
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Old Jul 5, 2005 | 02:55 PM
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Silicone rubber will definitely last, silicon sand will also last a long time as well.
 
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Old Jul 5, 2005 | 03:05 PM
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plastic of any color is an insulator and does not hold heat

Not really true. If plastic did not hold heat it wouldn't melt.

There are thousands of plastic and rubber compounds on the market today. Some reflect heat, some transfer heat, some conduct heat, some are heat resistant, some have very low heat tolerance, etc...no matter what the color is.

Two of my silicone products are rated very differently from one another yet look , feel, smell the same. One begins breaking down around 450 F and the other is good to over 800 F as an example.

The biggest problem, IMO, with these tubes and clamps is the varying degrees of expansion rates and how they relate to each other.

The silicone expands at different rate than the metal which expands at a different rate than the plastic. And lets not forget that the spring loaded clamps have different expansion properties as well. Throw a little lubricant into the mix and badda boom, badda bing....KaPOW!!! Thar she blows.
 
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Old Jul 5, 2005 | 05:46 PM
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I don't believe the plastic pipe is to totally blame with them poping off. I think its the poor PCV design and all the oil that gets into the pipes. I bet if they fixed the PCV system, the pipe wouldn't blow off at all. 25 to 30 psi AFTER the IC is a lot of pressure to be holding. Add the nice layer of oil that seeps out and pop goes the pipe. I bet the reason the metal pipe holds, is they can crank the clamps down a lot harder on the metal then they can the plastic.
The oil is not to blame it actually comes from the turbo and needs to be there. All turbo-charged vehicles have a small amount of oil in the CAC lines and hoses.

The oil helps prevent corriosion in the CAC and related items.
 
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Old Jul 5, 2005 | 06:22 PM
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Hmm, never heard that before. Makes sense, but ever since I got into mod'ing cars, oil in the air inlet = bad. Causes detonation etc. But then again, that is diesel vs gas engine thinking.
 
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Old Jul 8, 2005 | 05:15 PM
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Diesels will actually run on engine oil all by itself.
 
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Old Jul 8, 2005 | 06:22 PM
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CAC replacement done, looks real truck like now (metal tubes all over the place). My only disapointment is that the silicon sleaves are black.
This contrasts with the blue ones on the turbo outlet side.
I think they should at least be switched around, makes more sense, BLACK on the hot side, BLUE on the cold side.
 
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