This is a great video about Ford comparing to Toyota, Nissan, Chevrolet. Dissected each truck to show why Ford is STILL #1.

http://www.fordvehicles.com/trucks/f...22735667822378



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91 Ford F-250 Supercab with 460 Beast!!!!

 

I have a f-250, and it doesnt have a boxed frame

 

But the 150 does and that is what they are talking about.

 

I thought the Dodge 1500 had a hydroformed boxed frame.

 

It does, thats why they never mentioned it. They didn't really compare that much to the Dodge for some reason.


Best as always.

 

Yes, they showed the boxed Dodge frame. Did you happen to notice that the Ford frame cross-section was nearly double in overall size?

 

Best at what? I've had a couple, and can't think of anything.

 

Ford makes some excellent points in the video, but it is a promotional video. The fact comparisons are highly selective. The fully boxed frame is an example, as has been pointed out here. The Titan is fully boxed and the Ram is both boxed and hydroformed too.

Does anyone know just how much more "girth" Ford is talking about? Does this extra "girth" contribute to some powerstealing weight? At some point, "more" girth does not contribute to the mission of the truck, but does adversely affect performance.

I don't know where that point is, frankly, but more than one loyal Ford owner here and many people in the truck media have commented negatively on the extra weight over the last generation F-150 as being both unnecessary and a major contributor to what some have considered to be sluggish engine performance. Many, myself included, wish Ford could find a way to shed about 300 lbs.

Some here have speculated that the frame is now "too rigid" and that this is a contributing factor to the "vibration" issue. I don't know about that either, but that is the talk. Thankfully, most new F-150 owners are not having the problem.

The F-250 is NOT fully boxed and I don't think anyone is gonna say that is a wimpy frame because it is not! My older F-250 7.3 diesel does not have a fully boxed frame. Good solid ladder frame - yes, fully boxed - no. At almost 450,000 miles, I have never even thought about the possibility that the frame might not be up to the task. That truck runs with at or near maximum load capacity almost every day.

The F-150 and the Titan recently got highest ratings in federal crashworthiness testing. We should be proud that the Ford did slightly better in one of the tests, but both got the highest ratings, considerably better than others.

And while on safety, I didn't see anything in the video comparing trucks on such factors as which models have electronic stability control. In emergency avoidance maneuvers, or in wet, snowy, icy conditions, or when we just do something stupid and misjudge how fast we can enter a tight corner, this can prevent a skid before it can happen and save our lives and those of other people out there on the roads near us.

Uh, where is the powertrain part of the video - engine and tranny comparisons? Did I miss that?

There are good things to be said about a number of trucks in the 1/2 ton market and Ford has perhaps more good things to say than most.

Thus, there are a lot of great reasons to buy a F-150, but I wouldn't rely on a manufacturer's carefully assembled video, not any manufacturer, in making my final decision, because the manufacturer is not going to feature an issue in which it cannot claim an advantage over the competition.

 

I have never figured out why the one user has to write "best as always" all the time. Maybe because Dodge has always been the best? I highly doubt it.

All the manufacturers can make their own video to make it look like their truck is better in some aspects. Its all based on what they think is better. I will agree that by watching that video it makes you lean towards the Ford, but then again is half of that stuff necessary?

Whens the last time someone loaded their truck onto a courier ship lifting it up by the bed? I have never seen a bed fall off of a truck, so why is this necessary to market the huge bed bolts. The boxed frame is massive compared to the dodge but wouldn't a fully boxed frame that is smaller do the same thing if not be better. The oil filter matters because why, I don't know maybe we should all put a oil filter off of a big rig since bigger is better. The videos show the Ford is better than the competitors, but when the competitors are closely matched it fails to mention that by disregarding the comparison to the truck. Namely the Dodge and maybe the Titan in some cases.

Ultimately it comes down to the philosophy of the engineers that designed the truck. If everyone thought the same we all might be driving a Dodge, but thank god for that.

 

Thats an interesting video and I enjoyed watching it, but it was produced by Ford and therefore should be viewed with skepticism. Im sure Dodge, Chevy, Nissan, or Toyota could produce a similar video and come to the same conclusion about their trucks

I drive an F-150 because I think its the best truck on the road, not because of a video produced by Ford's marketing department.

 

Let’s make it clear, only specific parts are compared, and only to other manfactor's parts that appear to be inferior as far as size etc... No actual testing was performed.

It’s all propaganda that needs to be viewed within that context.

 

Amen. We should love our Fords because they are the right truck for the job they perform and not because some advertising executive says we should.

But still, it is an interesting video. Fun to watch. Just have to take some of it with a grain of salt.

 

Ford's frame is massive, though. It really makes the chevy look bad in that department. Propaganda.....sure. But impressive nonetheless.

 

Its just his signature I think.

 

Nope. It started as best regards, now its just "Best as always." just a little something to end posts on a friendly note.


Best as always.