Hey Guys, im not new but ive been gone a while, graduated college, got a job as an engineer working mostly on cat diesel engines. Just ordered an 06' 6.0 psd lariat cc short bed FX4 . should be in late july, I understand break in but i cant help at looking into programers and exaust already and i was hopping to get some input as well as any other information ya'll feel might be usefull for me.

Thanks,
Evan

 

The only thing I would suggest is NOT to use a programmer. These new trucks have plenty of power out of the box and the 6.0 is very picky on puking coolant . At lease wait and see how it acts before adding a programmer.

Just my $.02

 

I haven't chipped/programmed mine simply because this truck hauls so much butt compared to my old 7.3. But don't let that stop you from going nuts on intakes and exhaust...

 

I've put on the TS Instigator, and have it turned all the way up. I have to be careful at times not to slip the tranny, it really could use a better TC to hold the power and not upshift so quick.. Man will this truck fly. It will break the back tires loose hooked up to a load. I raced a new GTO. .rolling @ 85.. and he wasn't leaving me at all, I did get out jockeyed in traffic though, but a 9k truck doesn't do as good as a 2k car. Have fun with it. But don't get in over your head

 

Well, Ive grown up building bad Edited out pullin trucks, but all gassers, 460 boerd to 509 582 hemi crazy stuff, runnin nitrous, i figure since i got an engineering degree in off-road power equipment and took countless hours of diesel theory classes i might as well put it to use to have a bad a$$ stroker, so for you guys that have made some serious modes, what did you use, and if you have used more than one brand which was better. ive done a fair amount of research and tried to get banks and bullydog to let me see the actual computer code so i could track it backwards and see the actuall fueling affects, but no luck.

any info is greatly appreciated.

Evan "E-Bone" Foster

 

Also I Was Curious If Anyone Here Has Installed A Remote Start For Their 6.0, I Want To Get One So That The Engine Can Be Good And Warmed Up When I Leave To Go Places. I Have To Badge In And Out Of Our Engineering Firm.

E-bone

 

Firesoutmatt, If I lived in Indiana I would leave it stock too but out here in the mountains, the programmer/chip sure does help. With the reduced oxygen content, a stock truck just does not do it like it would closer to sea level. It helps on take offs, pulling power and anytime I want to really get away from a rice burner. I would take your advice though and wait and see if you really need it but it is definitely worth it the extra power. I waited until almost 15,000 before putting one on my 04. Once I did it actually corrected a few of the problems I was having and no longer have any issues pulling 18,000 lbs over 6,000 feet in elevation.

 

That is nonsense.

Programmers are totally safe on these trucks.

 

I had the remote start/security system installed in my '05 KR 6.0. I love it, would certainly do it again. The only issue was it took the tech 2 1/2 days to install it, I guess he had never done one before and there was an error in the schematic from Ford.


HDCarl

 

Had to laugh at that one Vic
Do you want the list of names of guys with messed up trucks from programmers or you just being funny?

Better yet just go up to the programmer thread and read.

 

And who says these trucks were "messed up" by programmers?
The techs at the dealership?
The statement has no credibility because it has not been backed up by them with any type of controlled testing.

Give me a break.

Ford has been masking the issues on the stock trucks for quite some time now, and if the truck has a problem stock the programmer may accentuate or reveal the problem, but most certainly doesn't cause the problem.

I can't tell you how many THOUSANDS of programmers have been sold without a hint of a problem.
The actual number of programmers sold per month is HUGE.
The people with the issues are 1/10th of 1% and can be traced back to a stock problem with the truck.

I understand your comments and am not trying to discount them, but they really have NO credibility.

IMHO (this certainly doesn't apply to everyone), the most uninformed in this business are:
Dealer techs, service advisors and dealer salesmen.
The techs can be even more dangerous because people THINK the techs know it all and listen to what they say as Bible.
They know what Ford has trained them to know, and Ford has trained them to save them on the bottom line!

Do you trust your insurance adjusters word? I sure don't!
Techs and service advisors protect Ford's cost on warranty claims just like BillyBob from State Farm is trying to save the company money.

Dealers get REWARDS and spiffs for having the lowest warranty claims and can get reprimanded (or have the entire department replaced) for having too many warranty claims.

A good friend was Fired as a service advisor from Ford, because he let too many warranty claims go through.
I quit working for dealerships over 6 years ago because the ethics were so out of whack and it was all about protecting the botom line. It was like this at every dealership I worked at. The stuff that goes on behind the scenes is just plain scary and ethically hard to deal with.

 

I wouldn't want to be that 1% that gets my warranty voided Vic and that would be my luck that it did. Vic you can say anything you want about how good programmers are but when they put that warning label on the box that says Use at your own risk Its exactly that my risk not yours or superchips. Will you go with me to Ford and fight If they say my warranty is void because of a programmer I installed ?

Ford designed the 6.0 to run with their stock program and when you add programmers and chips don't expect Ford to foot the bill becuse you added something that it wasn't designed to use.

Lets talk about insurance adjusters .........Wait thats not worth typing.
I do have State Farm and havn't had a problem with a claim yet.

Dealership hire people to work for them and not give away warranty money to someone that added a programmer to his truck when it broke .If you owned a company and the people you hired threw money out the door fixing peoples trucks becaused they mod the heck out of it. I don't think you would last long but hey who am I

 

Vic, I agree with you. In fact my chip actually fixed an issue I was having with the truck that Ford could not figure out after 6 trips to the dealer. The programmer is definitely not the problem in most cases. It is either driver error or an issue that the truck had when it was stock. Firesoutmatt, your opinion is fine but don't blame the programmer. Blame the reason for not getting your warranty work done because you were too dumb to remove the programmer before taking it in but the problem probably was not the programmer to begin with.

 

Thank you.

I think "dumb" is a little harsh, but it makes the point.
Set it to stock. They are LOOKING for an excuse to void your warranty...don't give them one!

 

Vic, your right, I did not mean that Firesoutmatt was "dumb". I have seen a lot of people complain that their warranty was denied because they modded their truck and took it in for service without taking the tune out. Sorry if I offended anyone and by the way, I took mine in with the unit still connected too. Luckily my dealer is mod friendly and my family has bought a lot of commercial trucks from them.