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I didn't say that the programmer caused the problem heck I never said what the problem was. I don't have a programmer so I don't have to worry about it. All I'm saying is that you guys can say all you want about how you think the programmer didn't cause the problem but when I'm standing at the service desk at Ford and they say it did .Where are you guys going to be ? I will just show them copys of these threads and tell Ford these guys say my programmer didn't cause the problem. lol
jasfaa, Do you actually believe that even if you remove the program that they can't tell there was one ? Maybe you should have your name and phone number printed on the programmer so if someone has a problem at Ford they can call you and straighten them out . You are correct about one thing that its probably not the programmers fault but why take that chance and end up footing the bill .
firesoutmatt, did you have the dealer install the remote start on your vehicle? Technically, if something went wrong with your truck they could state it was the remote start unless they installed it. From what I have been told, these trucks are very finicky when you add on electrical components. This is one reason why they added the fuse block with switches on the 05's as an option.
Not to get of topic but all I was saying is that If you want to play be prepared to pay.Period
We can argue all day but I just wanted him to know what could happen and not that it will happen .I hope nobody has to go threw that but I don't want to take that risk.
And yes the dealer installed the remote thanks for asking
The only thing I would suggest is NOT to use a programmer. These new trucks have plenty of power out of the box and the 6.0 is very picky on puking coolant . At lease wait and see how it acts before adding a programmer.
Well fellas i appreciate the input, and Firesoutmat, i approciate your opinion but dad has an 05 and i WILL run a programmer on my 06. just tryin to figure out wich is best. Im leaning twords bully dogs dyno dominater with outlook monitor. any guys with suggestions please post. also Firesoutmat, did you get the ford gold remote start, or what brand, i want one of those also.
I am not going to get into warranty issues and modified trucks. I can see things from the consumer's and the manufacturer's point of view. I am not sure which is correct. I guess we will have to wait and see how Ford handles our transmission claims.
With that being said, I run an SCMT and would recommend it to anyone. Just make sure you do your research to figure out if you want a tuner or fuel module. Figure out the pluses and minuses of each, and what each mod does. For me there is alot to be said for tuners that are reliable and do not have drivability issues compared to a pumped up HP/TQ #.
I am not going to get into warranty issues and modified trucks. I can see things from the consumer's and the manufacturer's point of view. I am not sure which is correct. I guess we will have to wait and see how Ford handles our transmission claims.
With that being said, I run an SCMT and would recommend it to anyone. Just make sure you do your research to figure out if you want a tuner or fuel module. Figure out the pluses and minuses of each, and what each mod does. For me there is alot to be said for tuners that are reliable and do not have drivability issues compared to a pumped up HP/TQ #.
The programmers are definitely more desireable because they offer true PCM flash with transmission control.
Inline devices "fool" the PCM and come with a lot of drivability issues. THey also don't do anything to protect the transmission because they can't without the ability to flash the transmission file.
I agree with you Vic on the inline modules and the tranny issues. The process you have to go through did not look like too much fun. I have a stick so I did not think the programmer could re-program how I drive. I think my wife wishes it would though.
I agree with you Vic on the inline modules and the tranny issues. The process you have to go through did not look like too much fun. I have a stick so I did not think the programmer could re-program how I drive. I think my wife wishes it would though.
The programmer(superchips anyway, can't speak for others) removes the "derating" that prevents the engine from making power at higher RPM.
In short: manual 6.0 + scmt performance file = power past 4200 RPM.
Same with the auto due to retuning of the trans file
Has anyone used the Bully dog power pup in conjunction with the outlook moniter. It has trans settings, and stores the stock code for service perposes i didnt really see where others had that feature. plus a buddy is a dealer and i can get it for a steal.
I guess the Ford guys have no clue how to get more HP/TQ. From '04 to '05 they incerase torque rathing for 10in-lb. At the same time programmers do 100Hp/150lb-in without any problem! Wow.
Hay I'm going from 210 to 325 HP and 425 to 570 torque! And the turbo spools up much faster than my 96 7.3 (even with the SCMT, only used it on safe tow). My only question, is there a unit that will improve mpg? BTW the auto tranny may be to smooth, I can hardly tell which gear I'm in whith out keeping an eye on the tack.
Last edited by bocomojoe; Jun 29, 2005 at 11:46 PM.
jasfaa, I went from a '96 7.3l to a 2006 6.0l. What a big improvement, to the whole truck. (I really liked my 7.3, it had 173,000 and I thought is was about time to trade) And Colubmia is HOT.
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