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Old Jun 24, 2005 | 08:31 AM
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relay culprit?

At work we have a 94 F150 with the 302 in it thats having problems starting, i've previously posted there about what could be the cause. What happens is it wont start, its not the starter, alternator, or batt. Just today i may have discovered the problem, as it turns out, there is a relay hooked up to the cb radio, but whoever installed it was probalby trying to hook it up off the ignition, but they wound up hooking it up off of the dome light fuse or somthing, so in other words, the relay is constantly on. My question is this, will a relay draw enough power to kill the battery, if the battery is allready down, like, if the battery is dead, and the truck wont start, and we jump start it, drive it 3 miles, and let it sit for 10 min, and come back out, will the relay draw enough power to have killed the battery?
 
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Old Jun 24, 2005 | 08:48 PM
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if the battery is allready down, like, if the battery is dead, and the truck wont start, and we jump start it, drive it 3 miles, and let it sit for 10 min, and come back out, will the relay draw enough power to have killed the battery?
The battery may not have been charged enough in 3 miles to re-start the truck. If a battery goes completely dead, your best hope is to put it on a slow charge overnight after you get it home, and hope for the best the next day. A automotive type battery can take this abuse a couple of times, but it's life is shortened dramatically. If you have been having trouble with the battery going dead for awhile, and have been treating it like you described more than a couple of times, it may be ruined.

Put it on a slow charge, check the water if possible, and cross your fingers.
 
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Old Jun 25, 2005 | 11:08 AM
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I personally think that this battery is shot, and hopefully that relay was the problem, because we hooked a battery charger to it (may also have been shot) and let it sit for about 4 hours, and it still clicked just like before. But we jumped it off of the F350 sitting next to it and it fired up. The thing is is that when i put my meter on the battery it says 14.xx volts, and i think the battery charger shuts off at this point (so it doesnt overcharge) But just because its putting out 14.xx volts doesnt mean that it will put out the ampreage needed to turn the starter, right? LIke i said, i think this battery is done for.
 
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Old Jun 25, 2005 | 11:27 AM
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But just because its putting out 14.xx volts doesnt mean that it will put out the ampreage needed to turn the starter, right?
You are correct. If you work in the shop where you are employed, you need to suggest they get a battery load tester. Most of them look like a chrome box with holes and a meter on the front. They are not too expensive. This load tester has a big resistor inside it that puts a load on the battery while checking the voltage at the same time. This will tell the tale. With no load, the battery voltage will "float up" to the high voltage reading you were getting, not giving you any good info.
 
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Old Jun 25, 2005 | 02:35 PM
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Thanks for the info on the load tester, i'd make a suggestion but its only my 3rd day of the job and i dont want to act like i know it all (plus i'm only 18, so age doesnt help). So far i've only been kinda hinting at what i think the problem is. But i bet if we put a new battery on it, or maybe even just charge that old one, it should cure things, with that relay unhooked and everythign.
 
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Old Jun 25, 2005 | 11:14 PM
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I am sure the relay was probably putting a load on the battery, but just to make sure, you can do the test below. If the testlight lights up bright, then you still haven't found the drain problem.

 
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Old Jun 26, 2005 | 11:57 AM
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I know that the relay was taking power, because when i unhooked the signal wire to the relay it would click on and off, but i just wasnt sure if that relay could drain that much power from a truck, but over time, i suppose. Thanks alot for that test, i'll try it.
 
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