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Old Jun 21, 2005 | 01:47 PM
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Running engine with no electrical system

I have a 1997 F250 7.3L Diesel, and recently the alternator failed while I was driving a considerable distance. Since I didn't know it had happened, the electric system proceeded to drain both batteries, and I only started to get suspicious after various instruments started to fail -- first the tach, then the speedometer, etc. Finally I was left with virtually no electrical system power at all. I probably shouldn't have kept driving, but there wasn't a good place to stop. When I finally found a place, I had driven maybe 20 miles with no electrical system.

Was I risking damage to any critical systems by driving without any electrical system? Or could I have saved a hefty towing charge and kept driving all the way home? Just got the truck back from the repair shop, and everything seems fine.
 
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Old Jun 21, 2005 | 02:05 PM
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Sooner or later the truck would have died, so towing was probably a good idea. I doubt you did any harm, but the batteries have probably been weakened. Hope it helps.

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Old Jun 21, 2005 | 02:14 PM
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I figured that since there ain't no spark plugs that require an electric spark, the engine could just keep chugging merrily along. But there are probably lots of electronic sensors that would cause the engine to shut down if they shut down?

As for the batteries, does draining them seriously compromise their integrity? The batteries are fairly new (well, less than a year old).
 
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Old Jun 21, 2005 | 02:17 PM
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Being that new might not be a problem, just not good for them. And YES, there is a ton of sensors, about 21 that keep er running...

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Old Jun 21, 2005 | 09:36 PM
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Don't the injectors need juice to fire or is that only when its not running? I once had just enough juice to turn the motor over but not enough to fire.
 
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Old Jun 21, 2005 | 09:44 PM
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The psd requires alot of juice to run. Injectors fire with around 120 volts. So I'm surprised you made it that far. It would have quit eventually.
 
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Old Jun 23, 2005 | 12:26 PM
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I had an Alternator fail on me at 174K mi. I was crossing the Mighty Mackinac bridge in northern MI during the winter and noticed my battery gauge slowly started to drop. Seemed like every half hour or so. Had no choice but to press on as it was around 11:30pm. I almost made it to my destination but fell a half hour short. All the electrial components in the truck started to go one by one. The truck ran for almost two hours on a failing Alternator. Charged the Batteries, replaced the Alternator, and everything has worked fine since. The truck has 253K mi on it now. It was one of those night's like you read about. 20 degree's and snow coming down at a rate of 2'' per hour. Thank God for a cell phone.
 
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Old Jun 23, 2005 | 12:39 PM
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Originally Posted by mxzdoo
I had an Alternator fail on me at 174K mi. I was crossing the Mighty Mackinac bridge in northern MI during the winter and noticed my battery gauge slowly started to drop. Seemed like every half hour or so. Had no choice but to press on as it was around 11:30pm. I almost made it to my destination but fell a half hour short. All the electrial components in the truck started to go one by one. The truck ran for almost two hours on a failing Alternator. Charged the Batteries, replaced the Alternator, and everything has worked fine since. The truck has 253K mi on it now. It was one of those night's like you read about. 20 degree's and snow coming down at a rate of 2'' per hour. Thank God for a cell phone.
Wow, that could have been BAD! Glad it worked out though. PSD is more like a train, just can't stop 'em!

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Old Jun 23, 2005 | 12:46 PM
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After owning this truck (97 F-250 ext cab, LB), I can't imagine ever having anything else. I just wish that the price of Diesel fuel would come down to at least $1.70 per gallon. Who's with me??
 
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Old Jun 23, 2005 | 12:56 PM
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yeah, the PSD will quit running eventually. i had mine do that went the alternator went. i think the only engine that will run with no power i just read recently was the 94-99? cummins (the 12 valve) cause its not NEARLy as eletrical at all.....when the motor dies in my truck, i'm gonna find a twin turbo'd cummins....but thats a different story.

good luck with your truck Rick
 
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Old Jun 23, 2005 | 01:00 PM
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Originally Posted by mxzdoo
After owning this truck (97 F-250 ext cab, LB), I can't imagine ever having anything else. I just wish that the price of Diesel fuel would come down to at least $1.70 per gallon. Who's with me??
How about under $1.50? I'd love to see that again.Really considering the Biodiesel thing, or maybe even a garden hose and a fuel can.... Gotta do something.

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Old Jun 23, 2005 | 04:42 PM
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The price of fuel ain't never coming down again. That's one of the reasons I bought a diesel truck when I finally broke down and bought a truck. I'm currently getting 21 miles to the gallon on my 97 F250. Mostly highway driving.

The other reason I bought the PSD was I don't want to ever buy another truck. It had 148K miles on it when I got it, and I hope it'll still be running after 400K.
 
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Old Jun 23, 2005 | 05:13 PM
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Rick,
Unfortunately, I have to agree with you on the fuel prices never coming down. I think we're just stuck. Oh well, still better than driving a gasser, I can't imagine getting 10 mpg with a big block (unloaded). I'll keep my truck till she leaves me!

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