Does anyone here have any experience with the Dodge V-10? I jsut drove my Uncle's Dodge V-10 and its a dog. My Brothers 91 F-250 with a 7.3 IDI walked all over it in acceleration and pulling.
Just wondering what others on this site think about these Dodge "trucks" with the V-10. That "truck" my Uncle owns is a far cry from my Superduty V-10

 

I am surprised. The Dodge has 300 HP and 450 lbs. of torque.

 

i didn't even know dodge made a v-10 truck engine or is it the viper v-10 you are talking about

 

It's a variant of the viper motor. It was (and might still be) offered in the 3/4 and 1 ton trucks. It's 8.1 liters, and gets ~11mpg.

 

In the mid 90's Dodge had no big block, so a cast iron version, detuned V-10 based on the aluminum Viper motor was made. It wasn't a bad engine, but it had a funny exhaust note and didn't do real well on gas. It was a fairly good towing engine though, but Dodge really pushes the Cummins, so the V-10 was for the guy who was Dodge loyal and would not have an oilburner. It was a stop-gap for Dodge when gas was cheap. Why Dodge went to a small block they call the hemi in a 3/4 ton truck is beyond me. You can advertise hp til the cows come home, but you need that torque to get the whole 40 yards moving. Anyway the Dodge V-10 was a low-tech, low rev, heavy, big inch gas motor. As long as you drove it like it was designed for you were OK. It did not like revs, it did love gas stations. The Viper motor with it's aluminum design in a light car was still an old design, but it made up for it in sheer overwhelming hp to weight ratio. The origianl Vipers were 400 hp, then went to 450 and now are 500. But vastly different in everything except basic layout of cylinders and cubic inches.

 

Thats interesting, I am relatively new to the gasoline side of the fence here. When I bought my truck I wanted an oil burner, and It was going to be a Dodge with the Cummins,( I own a Kenworth with a Cummins already) or a Ford with the Powerstroke.

I got such a good deal on this V-10 I couldn't pass it up. NO REGRETS. I love the way this truck runs. I pull some heavy loads with it, the real heavy stuff with the Kenworth. But as far as tooling around town, I have to say this gasser gives me some massive BSEG's.

So I was surprised at my Uncles Dodge v-10 and the way it ran. It was like driving a diesel again. This V-10 Ford has spoiled me.

 

Our V-10 is basically a Ford mod motor, OHC, small block with 2 cylinders grafted on. So when you look at it that way, it all makes sense. It likes to rev, and with it's design of 10 small cylinders it also makes a nice, fat torque curve along with good hp numbers up higher in the rev band. So yea, I'm with ya, I love the V-10 Ford. The Dodge V-10 has nothing wrong with it, it's just a different animal, very much like a diesel as you mentioned, Ken

 

the dodge v10 was based off the old 360 motor. was a odd fire motor and is no longer made for the truck. except if you want to spend 60 large then you can buy one with a viper motor in it. i have never seen a lot of v10 dodge p-ups and only know 1 person with one .yes they are harder on gas then ours. but they have more cube's also.
love my ford v10 as a every day driver

 

Ford pushing the PSD so hard they forgot all about the extraordinary design work it took to craft this near perfect V10 motor and it really ticks me off.

The Dodge truck V10 and Chev 496 cube V8 were the big inch answer for heavy duty trucks but they are serious fuel hogs, and the much heavier design takes away from useful pay load. But I respect both motors just because the manufactures had the ***** to make them. If I was a bow tie guy (never ever consider Dodge) then I would be torn between the Duramax and the big 8 liter.. both serious motors ...

Funny though, there are a bunch of the big inch Chevy iron around here and not one of them has made the big deep throaty V8 exhaust mods to make them sound like serious pavement pounders. Everyone with a little V8 motor has many exhaust mods and some of them sound real good. Very curious , I will have to ask one of them what sup!

Shame on Ford for not touting loud and long about the weight, economy, and performance from a puny 415 cubic inches!

 

I know a couple of guys that have owned them. They both liked it, never had any problems that I am aware of. I have lately been considering buying one. I kind of like big inch low tech motors and I don't really care about mileage. My work truck is a way over loaded 81 F250 with a 351M so I am used to it.

 

The Dodge V10 has not been available in their heavy duty pickups for several years now and you can only get them in their hot half ton. I have seen a few of these with spoilers on and I want to hurl every time. The Ford V10 factory in Ontario, Canada is running flat out making these wonderful motors most of them going in Class C Motorhomes, work trucks, and a few shrewd pickup owners who have not bought into the diesel myth of super high fuel mileage and a motor that will outlast the truck. The last one is priceless because once the truck is worn out what good is the motor? Anyway Ford is making so much money off of diesel owners, many who can hardly wait for another yet more powerful version so they can trade their life time motor in after 2 years and get a better one. This type of marketing is working well for Ford and they offer the V10 for people who know what they want. Now , that I own a V10 , I am not worried about getting rid of it before warranty runs out. This is a motor I can afford to fix on my own. I already saved over 5000 bucks (Can ) on the initial purchase and I don't have a 4000 buck turbo to worry about or another 5000 bucks worth of HEUI
( hydraulic electronic unit injectors ) that I may have to buy. I can relax and come here and spend time with people who can think for themselves. We might have to put up with a few simpleton trolls starting threads that don't make sense, but go up to the 6.0 Forum and you get a bunch of rich kids putting 6.0s on Roids so they can go fast.
They don't even know what a truck is for. We live in a strange world, Wrench.

 

Good post, Wrench. I know several guys that have new top 'o the line diesels of all makes that don't even own a trailer but never miss a chance to remind me that my V10 is a "weaker" engine!

I don't tow real heavy trailers but I'll bet I have a higher percentage of tow mileage on my odometer than 90% of the guys in the diesel forums and my 2-valve 310HP V10 with the "weak" 3.73 axle has never left me feeling like I need more truck. I don't remember ever holding up traffic on the highway even with 6000 or more lbs on the hitch!

The one thing I always notice when I visit the diesel sections is how many threads are problem related subjects compared to the V10 section's threads. There've actually been a few lately of diesel owners bitching about high fuel prices!! More of the V10 threads have to do with questions about new purchases, jealous diesel trolls, mods, BSEG'ers sharing positve experiences etc. Fair share of problem questions but nowhere near as many as the diesel sections.
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Back on topic: I've driven a neighbor's Ram 2500 8.0L V10 a few times towing. I think it's a '99 model. They have a load of torque at low speeds and rpm. The one thing you guys would notice if you towed with one is how easily it can get the trailer in motion from a dead stop. The engine barely needs to rev to get weight moving.

The last few years it was made it was rated to produce 400lb-ft at about 900rpm!! Dodge trucks stink in general but it's hard to think of an engine that does that as weak. That stat beats the Ford V10 and GM's 8.1L.

But it really gets winded fast at highway speeds. I have a good feeling that a Ford V10 would beat the snot out of one unloaded for 0-60 or 1/4 mile. Maybe it has a narrow power band or maybe the trannies weren't geared right for the engine but the one I drove really had a hard time keepin the speed up on the highway let alone acceleratin to pass another car. It shifted all over the place and never seemed to be in the right gear. The guy still has that Ram V10 but he doesn't drive it much anymore.

 

Your really looking for a scrap tonight arnt you?

 

nick
he's not i am. really good morning. wrench as normal made sence again. and in a round about way. say's how i feel . no matter what is under the hood, it's a ford and pulls our loads in style.
i would have a diesel if it had not been, A, that i did not have the extra cash and B, the other half would not put up with driving one. it's bad enough when she does the tank is full and when i get it back it reads almost 0 and the almost 300 miles later

 

While I don't love the styling, nor even the truck so much, having the huevos to drop an aluminum, 500 hp Viper motor with a six speed in a 1/2 ton pick-up was very bold. I love the direction Chrysler is going. Some of their cars/trucks, well, let me just leave it at they're, uh, shall we say-different ?

Little V8's=big inch envy. The smaller the engine, the bigger the exhaust pipe as evidenced by 1.6 liter Honda's with 8" fart pipes. I will go no further in my dissertation of why a smaller unit up front has to be made up for in other areas. Us V10 owners are secure in our equipment, nuff said ? I think so, Ken