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hmmm I see a couple of guys say the 2300 4 cyl was the worst engine, on that one I have to disagree sorry but there were alot worse engines than that one. The mileage might have been better as I never had one get much more than 27mpg, and never less than 19, I have owned 7 of them mostly in the old pintos, and not one of them gave up the ghost at less than 150,000 miles, and actually had one that I sold with over 225,000 miles and still running but yeah guess it was bad since it burned a qt of oil every 1000 miles. I only ever had one take a cam out and that was at 165,000 miles, so for a cheap engine that was relatively easy and cheap to fix I don't think those miles I got out of them was all that bad.
I definately agree with Kevincw. The 2300cc engine was Ford's worst engine built in my liefetime. Soft cams and leaking rear main seals made this a JUNK engine in my opinion. I don't know why I kept buying those stupid things. I think I kept thinking they would improve them throughout the years. Well, I know from experience they never got better. They also had a bad gas mileage record for a 4 cyl. in my opinion. If Ford would have used a downsized version of the 4.9 300 6 cyl. for the 2300cc 2.3L they would have had a winner.
was't that the 2.3 HSC???
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hmmm I see a couple of guys say the 2300 4 cyl was the worst engine, on that one I have to disagree sorry but there were alot worse engines than that one. The mileage might have been better as I never had one get much more than 27mpg, and never less than 19, I have owned 7 of them mostly in the old pintos, and not one of them gave up the ghost at less than 150,000 miles, and actually had one that I sold with over 225,000 miles and still running but yeah guess it was bad since it burned a qt of oil every 1000 miles. I only ever had one take a cam out and that was at 165,000 miles, so for a cheap engine that was relatively easy and cheap to fix I don't think those miles I got out of them was all that bad.
351 Modified, it was a 400 modified to a 351...but i think shoulda used H...for hemafrodite.
351 Modified, it was a 400 modified to a 351...but i think shoulda used H...for hemafrodite.
you should have quoted my sig instead of my post since that isn't in the post it happens to be in my sig now because of this very disagreement on another forum, and my sig usually reflects something that has recently happened or is happening to me dealing with automotive stuff related to usually my race truck(thus is changes on a weekly bases most times) But I really do not want to get ot seriously into it other than to say there is absolutly no proof that the M stands for modified in any of the ford literature, or documentation of the period in which the 351m was introduced, there are many that also feel it is a reference to the midland engine plant, or the michigan casting center. Midland is the only one of the above that I ever seen on any paper from the mid 70s, and was used only as a way to designate it from the other 351cid engines that ford had out. Now based on Fords and thus my contention that it really doesn't stand for anything at all. Just that when they produced it they had to come up with a way to destinguish it and one of the engineers said well we are in Midland so call it an M (which is basically what I read at one time on an old report about the engine) if there is any actual meaning Midland would be the most logical choice considering fords history in that the 351w was named after the Windsor Ont. plant and the 351c is named after the Cleveland plant so there is a pattern of using hte city but no pattern of using things like modified.
Monster, I disagree. I wrote to Ford myself on the subject. Twice. The answers to the questions I asked were the same both times. By two different people who do this and only this job for Ford. They actually have a person whom is in charge of the recorded history of Ford, in every way, shape and form. This person has a staff to answer questions from you and I. The answers to these questions are found in a data base (computer). Not from memory, heresay, or what was written in books, magazine articles, or what the guy down the street said. I would think that this is absolute proof that the M does in fact stand for modified. I copied and pasted one of the replies I received a year or two ago, to add my pennies to a thread about the M, the FE, and a few other things about Fords that people never agree on. All I can say, is that I'm going to have to listen to what the people say at Ford Motor Company. That is unless I can be pointed to somebody who would know better. If anybody doubts me, then please feel free to contact Ford.
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