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For a 100% USA content American made truck. We'll say 3/4 ton. Not one nut, bolt, plastic part, or anything, comes from anywhere but the good ol' US of A. Plus, it's assembled here too.
Next question: Could such a truck be built, or are we too dependant on foreign parts to even be able to?
Last question: If it could be built, how much do you think it would cost?
Last edited by rusty70f100; Jun 14, 2005 at 02:36 PM.
i would pay alot for a totally american made truck. i think it is well worth the money and it suports alot of things in this country.
this country is going down the tubes if people dont stop buying forgin cars and it would also help if they would stop pushin this global economy bull crap. we need to worry about the USA and only the USA for once.
for a 3/4 ton, all american, nicely equiped, id pay 80 almost max. but i think it would be very hard for us to do that. even if we could, we would be puting it together with welders from mexico, tools from china, and just about every other place.
Welcome to the global economy, your question is basically moot. I never understood the 'buy American' mentality - does that mean we shouldn't be able to sell American goods and services to other countries, either? Or is it okay for us to encourage them to indulge in such unpatriotic behavior as to buy from a foreign country (us) though we shouldn't stoop to do the same? Do you think any company, American or otherwise, truly strives to improve their products or services without significant competition from others either at home or abroad? Does anyone remember some of the crap that American auto manufacturers used to sell simply because they could - until the Japanese gave them a wake-up call?
I would pay no more than what I pay today. And anyway this is a total impossiblity today. The components for the electronics are all built overseas now.
Yes, it's OK for other countries to market their products here, and for us to sell our stuff (whatever that may be) in other countries. However, other countries actually PROMOTE patriotism. They seem to actually want their country to succeed. Most people in this country just dont care. Just as long as they've got theirs, to that unmentionable place with everybody else. THAT is the whole thing that has doomed this country. The whole auto business is just a perfect example. The success of Wal-Mart, where 90% of products are foreign made, is another. If we dont make anything, how can we hope to buy anything? Who will pay our bills? If we want our country to be successful, we've got to stick together. Buy American!
-end rant-
Yes, foreign competition is good. It keeps us on top of our game. However, I think we need to place a little more value on where something was made. JMHO.
Rusty this is not to place to have this talk but it is a much larger problem than just Wal-mart type success. The argument for cheaper salarys etc are just a smoke screen. I could explain it all but then the thread would just get locked. Anyway I agree with you its just than the problem is not as easy as it seems.
Rusty, I'm going to dissagree with the 90% foreign content of walmart... MAybe 90% of their clothing.... The problem is that in this country the workforce cares more about how much money they get paid, and what their benefits are than the quality. Dodge's transmissions are a good example of this. The DC plant that builds the dodge transmissions is located in Kokomo, IN. I know many of the employees, they have been know to say this: "Well it's not in my car so I don't care." What kind of attitude is that? With the unions calling the shots, and GM so eager to please the unions they are now so far in debt that they are probably going to have to file for chapter 11, and lay a whole bunch of people off. Why? Because of greedy americans. Yes we are the greatest nation in the world, be we are also the laziest, greediest, and the most stupid in financial matters. The problem is that the overseas stuff of today is of the same quality as the Made in U.S.A. stuff if yesteryear. The products I have purchased that were labeled as Made in the USA in the last ten years are all junk that I wouldn't sell to my dog.. I don't mean to disrespect the american workers, but what I see on a daily basis is that we have too many greedy people, that are not quality oriented. It's not their (insert object/item here) so they simply don't care.
I unfortunately have to agree with pfogle, I have seen it in my own workplaces, they just want their paycheck, and are not concerned with putting out excellent quality, only enough to get it to pass QC. Productivity is the same, they only do enough to keep out of trouble. I had some of them actually tell me to slow down, I was making them look bad, and they weren't kidding!
Gotta keep in mind....how much CAN we pay? Between $150k houses (here in KS), $2k a year for insurance, then add in sales and property taxes, tags, etc....$20k for a new car is about as much as I can comfortably pay regardless of whether I want to or not.
there's no motivation for the american work force these days. The workers are falling into the bare minimum category. I hate to say it, but the only thing that I think can snap this mindset would be a great depression again. Of course, with the global economy thing going, that would really hurt us in the long run to be down and out for a decade. Anyway, it's all in the heads of the Americans. They need to snap to reality and have a little pride.
Ryan
on edit: if you think the workforce NOW is bad, wait till the kids my age start running things. You'll see then the true meaning of lazy and clueless.
If there wasn't a single foreign part on the truck, if there were no computers, no electronic fuel injection, no fuel injection period, no smog controls, no plastic, all thick steel, if it came with a stick shift option, a no power-steering option, a 4 wheel drive option, and came with a classic bench seat, and a big ol' engine, I'd probably pay just what they paid for it when those trucks used to come out. About $3500 brand new off the showroom floor, but I know, inflation, so probably around $10,000.
(Rant incoming)
BTW, foreign markets limit imported material quite a bit more than the american market. All so we make buddy buddy with foreign countries. Our government worrys too much of what other countries think of us instead of what's good for us. Just look at how everyone boo'd at Bush's first 'gift' to help Tsunami (sp) victims. I thought it was generous but he was then pressured to match other counties gifts. WE DON'T HAVE THE MONEY TO JUST GIVE IT AWAY. Our national debt should clue us in. But they constantly do this. Wish I could run my business and household like this.
I'm self-employed and work hard to please my customers but being the owner helps. I don't have any employees but me and my wife. Can't find anyone willing to work for what I can afford to pay.
I'm one of the spoiled ones. Can't live without my toys. But I don't mind to work for em.
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