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Old Jun 9, 2005 | 06:48 PM
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H3

your unbiased thoughts of this vehicle?
 
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Old Jun 9, 2005 | 07:13 PM
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Maybe GM is trying to ressurect the glory years from the other hummer models by introducing this new H-3.

Times have changed/are changing.
 
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Old Jun 9, 2005 | 07:26 PM
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I like the H3, we test rode their course with it. I also like windows
 
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Old Jun 9, 2005 | 07:28 PM
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What platform is the vehicle based on?
 
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Old Jun 9, 2005 | 07:36 PM
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Im not sure. I guess the engine and transmission are Colorado
 
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Old Jun 9, 2005 | 07:40 PM
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It's based on the Colorado chassis. What is it with GM and butt ugly trucks lately?
 
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Old Jun 9, 2005 | 07:43 PM
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Ok, cool.
I personally would have liked to have seen Hummer (well, GM really) build a small, mean off-road machine (Wrangler-esque) as a H3.
Oh well, I suppose you build what sells...

And I have no doubt that this will.
 
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Old Jun 9, 2005 | 08:44 PM
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Found this.
Derived from the Chevrolet Colorado and GMC Canyon pickups, the H3 shares those trucks' body-on-frame construction; double-A-arm and torsion-bar front and leaf-spring rear suspension systems; and 220-hp, 3.5-liter DOHC 20-valve all-aluminum inline five-cylinder Vortec engine (the only engine offered).
 

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Old Jun 9, 2005 | 09:19 PM
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hmmm....
Just thinking out loud:
Leaf spring rear suspension
 
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Old Jun 9, 2005 | 09:28 PM
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system ok, being suspension challenged is this good or bad?
 
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Old Jun 9, 2005 | 09:59 PM
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IMHO. Bad.
1. It has a live axle. (good for dedicated off-road vehicles, not so good for anything else). Even if this is a Hummer, I don't think it was designed with a large amount of rock climbing in mind.
Ease of use, comfort, ride and handling would be more important to the average user of this vehicle than axle articulation at the extreme I would imagine.

2. Leaf Springs. Can never provide the accuracy, and suppleness of a coil spring. Usefull on heavy load carrying trucks, because they are:
- cheap
- can carry quite a heavy load if set up well
- don't require as heavy shock absorbers, due to the inherint friction in the leaves running across each other.
 
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Old Jun 10, 2005 | 12:50 AM
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This biggun should have been based a bit more on the TrailBlazer platform. If anything needed the I6 to get moving, this is it.

At least GM is making another fuel-efficient vehicle that will sell like hotcakes with gas being what it is right now. Losing $2,311 per vehicle isn't that big a sweat, I suppose, when all those high profit margined trucks and suvs are siting gather dust on them.
 
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Old Jun 10, 2005 | 09:37 AM
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Autoweek did a short writeup on it last week. Yes, it is Colorado/Canyon based. At 4700lb unladen, it cant get out of its own way with the five clyinder engine. At least you can get a manual transmission. If they had used the Trailblazer/Envoy platform, the $30k price would have been more like $40k. This thing is all about "image" and will make them tons of money, which is ok, they need it.

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Old Jun 10, 2005 | 09:51 AM
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Oh well, at least On-Star is standard. GM's got two unique products in the segment- the H3 and the Cadillac SRX. I "Get" the SRX, I don't get the H3.
 
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Old Jun 10, 2005 | 04:38 PM
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Id rather get the H3 over the SRX. and 220hp is pretty close to what some v8s were getting not to long ago.
 
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